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Navaash
Registered: 08-01

I am a horrible monster.

A good many amazing threads have been lost to the mists of time, which is why I decided to post this.

Let's remember for a minute: there was incredible pandemonium immediately following the attack. So much so, in fact, that it eventually knocked out the Internet as CNN and every other major news site was knocked offline due to the traffic. It, alas, also took out these very forums - but not before a record of it unfolding before our very eyes was recorded.

I'm certain some of you have been looking this thread, and others just curious. I experimented with a variety of ways of figuring out how to package this (ZIP files were giving me a headache) before I finally settled on this: the way it was meant to be presented.

NOTE: WHEN USING THE LINKS BELOW, DON'T BOTHER CLICKING ON THE PAGE NAVIGATION. YOU WILL GET "INVALID THREAD"

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 | 16 17 18

Threads 1-15 are the real-time thread, 16-18 are after the fact when the forums reopened.

I figured now would be the perfect time to repost these in public, now that emotions have cooled down and cooler heads are (hopefully) prevailing. I'm not going to take credit for this; I am simply the historian. But these are one and a half hours of the most compelling reading in the history of these forums - live and free exchange from a variety of people, the very essence of the Internet.

I close with the following words: NEVER FORGET.

03-05 05:50
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HauntedRoad
Registered: 02-02

Silent Strider

I got mail from the NYPD two days ago. They found my bag at the trade center, and I get to go pick it up tomorrow. You betyour ass I won't forget.

03-05 05:52
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SpeedFrog
Registered: 08-00


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The IRC log of #somethingawful when this all happened was interesting reading as well. Obviously it's a little more disjointed (as IRC tends to be), but interesting none-the-less.


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03-05 05:52
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Admiral
Registered: 12-00

Will choke to death for food.

quote:

There's a band from here called I am the World Trade Center. They should do their next show while being on fire.



I am so going to hell for laughing as hard as I did after reading that.


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03-05 05:53
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Fast Luck
Registered: 04-01

I am unfunny, unoriginal, and can't spell at all

Oh, I saved that thread as well. And I was in IRC for much of that day, but not near the time it happened.


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03-05 05:55
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emilbus
Registered: 05-01


I'm ashamed now at what I posted in that thread.


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03-05 05:55
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Fast Luck
Registered: 04-01

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quote:
emilbus came out of the closet to say:
I'm ashamed now at what I posted in that thread.
I like the list I made on the last page, with the tildes as bullets. Ah, yes.


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kill9
Registered: 12-01

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quote:
HauntedRoad came out of the closet to say:
I got mail from the NYPD two days ago. They found my bag at the trade center, and I get to go pick it up tomorrow. You betyour ass I won't forget.


You were there?

Call it curiosity, or at least wanting to hear some firsthand account, but I'm interested in hearing just how the NYPD came to finding your bag there, and the story behind this.

03-05 05:59
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Phubuh
Registered: 03-02


quote:
SpeedFrog came out of the closet to say:
The IRC log of #somethingawful when this all happened was interesting reading as well. Obviously it's a little more disjointed (as IRC tends to be), but interesting none-the-less.

Do you have it somewhere? I'd really love to read it.

03-05 06:01
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elpintogrande
Registered: 09-00


I have to remind myself that it was happening in real time, because reading some of the comments there really pisses me off. Some of the hate and some of the stupidity, honestly probably more the stupidity, but I don't think the people being stupid even realize it now when they reread it.

03-05 06:02
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Sick Zip
Registered: 01-02

"Blank Space!"

It's weird how at first everyone was joking about it.

Then they weren't.

Also:
Darth Versace is apparently an esper or something. Check her post on the second page to get a glimpse of her frightening third eye vision.

Edit: BEAT YOU GORDON FREEMAN. HAHA


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03-05 06:05
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Dr. Gordon Freeman
Registered: 02-02

Superbus Via Inscienti

Holy crap, DarthVersace is a psychic. Check out page two.


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03-05 06:06
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I sell out for boobs
Registered: 02-01


I wasn't posting on the forums when it happened, so this is all new to me. I understand people joking about it now, I mean we joke about history in retrospect in here, but I was suprised how a lot of people were joking about this as it happened. I was just so shitfaced that entire day, I expected to see a little more disbelief and emotion than HA HA I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DIED. COMEDY GOLD. I don't think this is the best thread to illustrate your point of never forgetting 9/11.


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MSCaptian
Registered: 11-00

Fake Lowtax clone, or am I?

quote:
Dr. Gordon Freeman came out of the closet to say:
Holy crap, DarthVersace is a psychic. Check out page two.


So is monkeu, check out his post on page 3.


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03-05 06:08
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I sell out for boobs
Registered: 02-01


quote:
Dr. Gordon Freeman came out of the closet to say:
Holy crap, DarthVersace is a psychic. Check out page two.


Lots of people speculated it was him, when I saw this on the news the first thing I thought was Osama Bin Laden.

03-05 06:09
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enneff
Registered: 11-00

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quote:
monkeu said:

WATCH BUSH START A FUCKING WAR


Wise man.


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03-05 06:10
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kill9
Registered: 12-01

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quote:
elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
I have to remind myself that it was happening in real time, because reading some of the comments there really pisses me off. Some of the hate and some of the stupidity, honestly probably more the stupidity, but I don't think the people being stupid even realize it now when they reread it.


It really is fairly chilling. I'm reading this and it feels like I'm reading a normal SA thread... but at the same time it's as if I know something they don't. I'm only halfway through reading it all, and so far I've had to twice beat back the attempt to reply to it and tell some of these people to shut the hell up.

I remember carrying out a lot of these same conversations with people I knew then. The whole idea that this was about to start World War III was fairly high up on everyone's list as far as I remembered.

03-05 06:11
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Craptacular!
Registered: 07-01

OH, I SURE POST A LOT

quote:
Hope they've got a good fixer-upperer...

quote:
First a bomb. Now a plane.

That fucking building just can't get a goddamn break.



I know it's bad, but I'm giggling.

03-05 06:14
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NickLess
Registered: 03-01

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jesus. just reading my post brought back so much bad memories i started tearing. i had to goto a psychiatrist and be put on anti-anxiety medication after 9/11. number of trips to the hospital thinking i had anthrax afterwards? 3. granted i was already going to a psychologist, but that day definitly didnt help me get any better.

ps. my father and all his employees made it out safely that morning.

03-05 06:14
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Lowtax Looper
Registered: 11-99

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quote:
SpeedFrog came out of the closet to say:
The IRC log of #somethingawful when this all happened was interesting reading as well.
Hahahaha, they were probably all blaming it on Zack and I.

03-05 06:15
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MSCaptian
Registered: 11-00

Fake Lowtax clone, or am I?

Number of times "Holy shit" said in thread: 17,280

03-05 06:16
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kill9
Registered: 12-01

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quote:
NickLess came out of the closet to say:
jesus. just reading my post brought back so much bad memories i started tearing. i had to goto a psychiatrist and be put on anti-anxiety medication after 9/11. number of trips to the hospital thinking i had anthrax afterwards? 3. granted i was already going to a psychologist, but that day definitly didnt help me get any better.

ps. my father and all his employees made it out safely that morning.



Glad he made it out.

I was actually about to post and ask about that, when I noticed you said he was there. For some reason at the same time had second thoughts about doing so.

03-05 06:17
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Hayama
Registered: 07-01

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Registered: 12-69
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Seeing that just gave me the chills.

Of course, the whole thread does -- mostly because it brought back vivid horrible memories of that Tuesday morning. I slept through the actual attacks, and when I flipped on the local news I expected to see traffic reports, not a plane crashing into a skyscraper with death count estimates in the thousands. I almost fainted right there from the shock, and I'll admit I cried. I honestly did. Waking up and seeing that after five hours of sleep was just too much for me. Plus, the main websites I normally use to get news were shot to hell; I didn't check the forums until page 13 of the thread, so they were already on their way out. CNN and BBC were flooded, and the hysteria on the TV was unbelievable. Never before did I feel such a choking sense of helplessness and disbelief.

Of course, several months later, here I am rolling my eyes at the sheer volume of 9/11 "tributes" during the Superbowl. Funny how time and exposure does that...

I'm also going to have to agree with EPG -- a lot of the comments I saw were pretty off-color especially given the weight of the situation. Although a little part of me wants to say "hey, it's SA, it's what we do" I think that even we stepped over the line just a little bit. Nothing on it really bothered me [in fact the only thing that did was that stupid "TERRORISTS WIN" counterstrike photoshop being passed around like a 50 cent hooker in IRC, but that wasn't really related to the forums] but it still didn't feel right to me.

[edit]Okay, I take that back about nothing bothering me.

quote:

Flappus crawled out from under a rock to sputter out this stupid shit:

Well, sorry, but this is the coolest thing ever. KARMAKAZI AMERICAN SCUM!




Jesus Christ, how can anyone EVER say that about the WTC attack, let alone while it's still happening? I know it's just idiotic trolling, but... ugh...


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03-05 06:18
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HauntedRoad
Registered: 02-02

Silent Strider

quote:
kill9 came out of the closet to say:


You were there?

Call it curiosity, or at least wanting to hear some firsthand account, but I'm interested in hearing just how the NYPD came to finding your bag there, and the story behind this.




Well, I work for Verizon in NYC on Pearl Street, which is about six blocks away from the WTC. I was in my office when the first plane hit, and my buddies on another board posted about it. Pretty much everyone in my office went to the elevator bay to watch. It was horrible to see, but it was just an accident, you know? So that was how I had a picture perfect view of the second plane hitting. at that, they evacuated our building. I'm right across the street from One Police Plaza,and the cops out there were asking anyone who knew first aid to go to the towers. I'm an EMT, so I went.

The following is my next post on the other message board I frequent, after everything happened:

quote:
I am alive

But barely.

I got to the WTC before any of the collapses. I had treated several people for minor injuries, a few burn patients and a guy who had a sucking chest wound from jet shrapnel, I turned to help a woman having an asthma attack and heard this gigantic cracking sound. Looked up to see tower number one break and fall. Got trampled and fell, wound up essentially across the street from the WTC, burind in about 8 inches of soot and ash, thinking I was going to die any second. I got hit in the head and back by fist-size pieces of concrete, and then stood up as the rain of rocks stopped. I was choking on ash, throwing up and trying not to pass out. I made it to a police cruiser, jerked the door open and got inside.eventually i made my way down the street to a bar and got inside just in time to see the second tower collapse on tv.

The bar i was in actually straddled the entire block, it had windows on both adjoining streets. A gigantic wave of debris came rushing down, cracked the glass on both sides and engulfed un in complete darkness.

Eventually i made my way uptown, the EMT's decided I wasn't going to be able to help more than i was going to slow them down, bloodied up and all.

So i'm in another Verizon building, this one on east 30th street. I'm more or less ok, covered in bruises, scratches and blood (mine and mr. sucking chest wound's), my right ankle is about the size of a grapefruit and I think I may have cracked a rib. Other than that, I'm ok. They've got a new set of clothes and some hot food on the way for me, and if they ever open up the port authority, i should be getting home tonight.

Don't try and call me, my cell phone is off line as i lost my charger in the debris of the WTC, as well as my one and only car key, and my daytimer with checks and whatnot. Thankfully I had my pass, my bus ticket, my wallet and my cell phone in my pockets. (big pockets)

I'll write again later...

Chuck/CSD



I eventually got home by ferry that night, but I had written my bag and such off as lost. I went back to look for it that friday, but I couldn't find it in all the rubble.

here's a link to a pic of the scene, that shows where I was when the first tower collapsed. (big pic)

http://www.magicalcheese.com/uploads/ChuckS/groundzero2.jpg

Now tomorrow I get to find out how much of my stuff is left.


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03-05 06:20
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i_am_the_hydra
Registered: 02-01

Why don't I have a custom title by now?!?

As sober as this all is, "NEVER FORGET" is already a phrase associated with the Holocaust and you'll find it in just about every Jewish cemetary you look in... I should hope we can find others (especially since I think the Holocaust was, in every respect, worse than 9/11).

03-05 06:20
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/dev/jesus_christ
Registered: 05-01

I am a horrible monster and I pray for death.

I saw the second plane hit from Castle Point in Stevens Tech. I was on my way to class and I looke to my left and see a plane coming in very low and banking very hard. And then I saw the explosion. The girl next to me screamed out "HOLY FUCK!" I froze, solid. The entire campus was pure chaos. Students had their TVs hanging out their windows so people outside could see the coverage on the news. They set up a blood drive that was really make-shift in the gym and a lot of people, like myself gave blood. A lot of the medical efforts were set at Stevens, but it was never covered on the news. I'm not dissapointed, just found that odd.



I remember it like it was yesterday and I will never forget it.

Edit: Looking over the saved thread, it's a damn good thing I didn't look at the forums for a few months during 9/11. I can't believe the ignorance displayed.

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03-05 06:24
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I sell out for boobs
Registered: 02-01


quote:
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Stuff



I know the possibilities are low, and I wouldn't have asked if I didn't see hauntedroad's story, but did anyone on the forums die from the 9/11 attacks? I just had to ask even if the odds are extremely low.

03-05 06:27
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HauntedRoad
Registered: 02-02

Silent Strider

quote:
I sell out for boobs came out of the closet to say:


I know the possibilities are low, and I wouldn't have asked if I didn't see hauntedroad's story, but did anyone on the forums die from the 9/11 attacks? I just had to ask even if the odds are extremely low.



I've wondered that myself, about the friends I have on other boards...but considering how few of us know each other IRL, I don't know if anyone would know. In all the paranoia afterwards, I thought about writing up a farewell thingamajig to with my will, in case I died, but haven't gotten around to it.

03-05 06:30
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01131982
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I remember having the TV on behind me, and the forums in front of me. It was all we could do, post in disbelief. That was a long day for me and everyone else in this world too.

EDIT- And I must say, some of the things said in that thread were pretty harsh, but I just have to remind myself that most people didnt understand how bad it really was.


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03-05 06:35
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carcinofuck
Registered: 04-01

sick body sick mind

Bahahah. The mood swing is hilarious.

I'm happy to say I'm not ashamed of the way I reacted to 9/11. Mostly because I didn't react. Except for flaming the kneerjerk idiots in CE.

quote:
Does it look like the Tower is leaning to anyone else?

Kinda puts the leaning Tower of Piza to shame.
This also struck me as funny.


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03-05 06:35
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MsOzma
Registered: 06-01

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Wow. I never actually saw the original thread, as I was in shock and glued to the television. What a day indeed. I've also had to supress the urge to hit reply and say "you FUCKHEAD" a few times.

The enormity of the situation still hasn't really sunken in. My grandparents went to NY over Thanksgiving, and they were very sobered by it. Maybe the distance I have from NY makes a difference. I just never expected something like that.

03-05 06:40
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Pledio
Registered: 06-01

I'm going to jail.

GunOwner had some powerful pictures, from his cousin or whatever. I think the thread has been archived, I think.

I read that thread for about 30 seconds, right before I went to school that day, and when I came home, nothing was working. My net was killed, TV had shutdown, except for news broadcasts, and Sacramento was virtually empty.

Eeerie. This is making me shiver right now, bringing back all the emotions I went through that day.


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quote:
Monkeu:

WATCH BUSH START A FUCKING WAR




Psychic!


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03-05 06:47
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Larz Smith
Registered: 02-01

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I still remember my experience that morning. I woke up and saw one of my roomates watching the news. I tried to watch, but was too busy getting ready for school. So me and my other roomate went off in my car. I get to the parking garage, and I cant get in, because I forgot my pass, so I drove back home. I walked back inside and never left my television for about 2 days straight as I watched everything unfold with my roomates. I still cant believe that watching history unfold before your eyes has to be so tragic.


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03-05 06:48
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I sell out for boobs
Registered: 02-01


quote:
Pledio came out of the closet to say:
Eeerie. This is making me shiver right now, bringing back all the emotions I went through that day.




Same here, I just finished the thread, and although lots of people were joking there was a mood shift as people realized that the shit really had hit the fan. It really does bring back memories of what thoughts were going through my head. Looking at all the false reports I remember thinking what the fuck was gonna get hit next, it was a waiting game at that point.

03-05 06:50
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CW Melchior
Registered: 06-01


Maybe I missed it, but didn't GameQuoter break kayfabe and post something in the midst of all that? I'd really like to read it if anyone has it.


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Misterkillian
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Newbie.

That picture of just the north tower standing alone after the south tower had collapsed really hit me, because that was the first scene I saw when I found out what had happened. I was watching the TV and I thought they were doing a replay of the '93 bombing, then I stared... and stared... and realized there was only one fucking tower, then I saw LIVE on the top corner of the screen, and I dropped my glass.

Reading through those posts was really odd, almost like reliving the day, since I was getting all my information on the Internet. It got me a bit choked up, I'll admit. I still have a great deal of disbelief in respect to it, like I just can't understand that the World Trade Center is GONE, and so many millions of lives have been disrupted.

We're still in the early steps of a long, hard battle against these people. This is extermination. It takes patience, intelligent, tenacity, and perseverence. When someone says the words, "never forget," to me, that means we cannot stop until justice had been done.

If we do, then we truly have forgotten.


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SolarFire2
Registered: 10-01

Why me?

I don't get very emotional, but this one teared me up a bit as I progressed from page to page.

People start out joking about it, and I laughed at a couple..

But then pages in, it turns to dread. "Holy shit." "Oh my God." The realization sinks in that this is really happening.

Very emotional.


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03-05 06:54
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anti-orp
Registered: 05-01

My posts are irrelevant since I haven't bothered reading the thread.

thank you, i was looking for this, its how i remember the day, because i checked the forums before any other media right as i woke up.


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03-05 07:01
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Pledio
Registered: 06-01

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quote:
CW Melchior came out of the closet to say:
Maybe I missed it, but didn't GameQuoter break kayfabe and post something in the midst of all that? I'd really like to read it if anyone has it.


Yeah, I remember that. It was in a different thread though.


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03-05 07:04
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EgonSpengler
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I remember reading through that thread, minute by minute, after the fact. Re-living the experience over and over. Well, the experience of watching it at least.

Thank you for archiving it, I will be sure to keep a copy.

03-05 07:06
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Marxgorn
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Thank you for posting that, I never got the read the thread as I was in tears in front of the television because I had my Girlfriend in NYC at the time.
Some of you were fucking psychic in that thread.

Ps, listening to Everclear-Wonderful while reading that thread made me close to tears again.
emotional.

03-05 07:08
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AlexZ
Registered: 07-00


damn, i just read that entire thread.

03-05 07:12
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Coxswain Balls
Registered: 06-01


I remember that day as if it were yesterday. I went on my daily routine, reading the forums as soon as I awaken. Ahah, funny! Some idiot crashed into the WTC! Then another! Oh boy, what a coincidence. Then the Pentagon... then more rumours. I go to school and tell some of my buddies, and they're in disbelief. "You're fucking joking to me." was pretty much the concensus. In math class, I got the radio and hooked that up, and that was all we did in that class. You could really notice the silence and shock that went throughout the room when the towers were reported to be falling. I pretty much skipped the rest of the day to follow the thread and go to the irc room while having the TV right next to me.

Not traumatized, but a very, very memorable day.

edit: re-reading that thread is literally giving me chills down my spine. Thanks again for posting it.

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03-05 07:14
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The truth will set you free

Wow, I remember I was at work and had no access to a TV. That thread was the way that I found out about it, and also the only way for 6 more hours that I got any information about it.

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Reading all 18 pages brought back so many bad bad memories. I had to go to work right after the forum died and I just couldnt do it. That thread made me feel like it was 9/11 all over again, I think im going to sleep restlessly tonite.


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Here is a screencap of GQ's reply.

http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~conwelkg/funny/Photoshopped/GQ911.JPG

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PLEASE don't fuck with the jackass from now on!

Thank you very, very much for posting that thread. It's brought back many memories that I'd rather never forget.

Thanks again.


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That was my only source of news on the day. I also was disgusted by the amount of rettards who didnt realise that there is a time to stop trying to be funny. AL was one of them. I thought better of him for some reason.

I made a thread the next day asking if OnOg was ok. I guess he was because he was quite a distance from the wtc.

If you are reading this OnOg could you tell us what happened after? did you go and get involved trying to help?


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I rememember waking up, turning the tv on, and shouting "HOLY FUCK" and running into my parents room, nearly naked, and yelling about the WTC being on fire..

Reading that thread has made me tear up like I was going through it again.

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I dance for the Japanese men.

Very interesting reading, thanks for archiving it. I missed the forum's reaction to the events because I was stuck in Newfoundland for a few days.

I was on a plane to New York while the events were taking place so we had to be diverted to Canada, the pilot could only tell us what he'd been told by ATC which was very vague. He told us there had been some kind of suspected terrorist activity in the city, and we assumed it was just a bombscare at the airport or something. Eventually once we got on the ground they put the BBC world service over the plane's P.A. system and we found out exactly what had happened. Horrible memories of knowing my sister was living right next to the WTC but having no way of contacting her to see if she was ok.

It turned out she watched the second plane hit from the roof of her building, which must have been terrifying.

All this terrorism stuff is highly unpleasant. Hold me.


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Those who are capable of entertaining doubts of my work are not worthy to speak to me.

I remember waking up around noonish becuse my phone wouldn't stop rining. I didn't have class till the mid afternoon, so I was trying to get a lot of sleep.

Anyway, my dad, who works in the Pentagon, said that he was calling to tell me he was all right. I had no idea what was going on. He said "Patrick, you odn't know what's going on, do you?" and as he said that I instantly knew what was going on. God, it was a terrible sensation, I realized that my generation had just earned its "Where were you when...?" question.

I thank you for archiving the thread, by the time I was up the forums were down- so was everything else.

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By the way, I get partially erect when I watch the Harry Potter movie.

quote:
SpeedFrog came out of the closet to say:
The IRC log of #somethingawful when this all happened was interesting reading as well. Obviously it's a little more disjointed (as IRC tends to be), but interesting none-the-less.


<SA-ItchyWoolPants> OMG! THE WTC JUST GOT HIT BY A PLANE >
<CoolHotStud13> Anyone wanna chat to a 13/m/idaho? pix, msn, icq.


Sorry, couldnt resist

</hijack>


I remember waking up to hear the news. My mum woke me up and told me America had been attacked and i remember calling her a "fucking liar" and told her it wasnt "cool" to joke about thing like that, i remember saying it wasnt April fools day and all that.
Then i saw it on the news and it hit me


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you and me are one

i was actually watching the morning local news and drinkign my morning gallon of coffee when the story hit... i saw what happened and spit out a mouthful of arabica goodness, then sat there forzen, mouth wide open, for about a half an hour... after i came to, i didn't feel like going to work (i felt like dying), so i calle din sick... my boos just told me "it's ok, william, we're ALL calling in sick today." i knew exactly what he meant.

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Registered: 05-01

If it really is me.

I was watching the Matrix and during the part when the helicopter crashes into the building, my friend who recently moved to New York messaged me on the AOL instant messenger device and informed me that the World Trade Center got attacked. It was really weird....

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Registered: 07-01

Will choke to death for food.

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ps. my father and all his employees made it out safely that morning.


Wow...I'm very glad to hear that. Believe it or not, I've been wondering ever since you made that post.

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11th of september is my birthday but since i live in Australia it happend around 11:00pm

i only heard about it by chance, cruisin a GBA board somewhere
thanks for the thread


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You're educated retarded.

I was just watching a talk show that involved bare boobies when I heard it. I decided to watch the boobies for another 20 minutes and then changed the channel for the news.
Later I tried to get on the Interweb but basically every site I tried to access was down or very, very slow. I wasted my time on IRC.

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Registered: 05-01

I dance for the Japanese men.

I woke up to a ringing phone. I don't usually answer the phone unless I am awake and I feel like it, but I was so asleep I did it without thinking. My auint started to scream in my ear and cry that we had been attacked, and THEY had taken out the pentagon and WTC. She said we were being invaded. I freaked because an invasion would change things a LOT. WTC has changed things, but an invasion.. wow. I started watching I think just about as the second plane hit. It was unfuckingreal. I went to check the forums, and they were dear, which served only to scare me ever more. I had to relieve a little of the pressing anxiety, so I made a totally inappropriate image macro.



I wasn't trying to be irreverent, I just needed some release, so even when the forums came back up I didn't post it. I think I've posted it once since. If it makes you feel better, the actual translation of the Arabic text is "Egyptian cookies are the best"


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Registered: 06-00

I am a horrible monster and I pray for death.

Thank you for archiving this, you've done a great service to the SA Goons.

I found out about the 9/11 badness in a rather odd way...

I had been on a roadtrip with Tube, staying at LHMX's house. We all had played the PS2 rather heartily that night, and slept well into the afternoon.

By the time we got up, we were all pretty hungry and stopped at a Subway to get some sandwiches. As we walk in, we notice that Bush is on the radio, but we are unable to hear what he's saying over the din. We start to order our food, and I overhear one of the employees talking about a plane hitting a building.

"What's going on?", I asked.

The sandwich artist looked up from the fine cuisine he was preparing and said "A jet crashed into the WTC".

That sucks, I thought to myself. We finished lunch and piled back into the car. On the way back we turned on the AM radio to an all-news station. What we heard shocked us. I felt myself beginning to panic. When we got back to LHMX's we flipped on the television for the first time.

Dear Lord, I have never felt so angry, confused, numb, sad, and panic-stricken at the same time, and to such an extent as this. I couldn't believe what had happened. As the images of so many lives lost replayed over and over, I felt such a deep sadness in me, and a growing hatred for those at fault. I wanted to scream, but resorted to silently crying.

The drive home that early evening was unsettling, the freeways in Los Angeles nearly empty. When I got home I watched the latest updates on CNN. I also had a couple glasses of wine.

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quote:
01131982 came out of the closet to say:
That thread made me feel like it was 9/11 all over again, I think im going to sleep restlessly tonite.
Yes. Jesus GOD.

The guy who gave me a ride in to work that day was ex-EOD and trained in anti-terrorism as well. Quite the educational ride into work that morning. The lobby was packed, and we all (who bothered to show up) sat there and stared at the TV. Someone ordered a stack of pizzas, which nobody ate. People stopped watching when Fox News changed their standard "every 10 minutes" recap to some new updated one which had a fucking cheery-voiced announcer ("...and THEN! MINUTES later!! A SECOND plane hit the OTHER tower!!!"). Even in retrospect, that day at work still doesn't feel real.

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Registered: 05-01

I dance for the Japanese men.

God, that brings back a lot of memories about that very strange September night (I'm in Australia). I remember reading the first few posts on that thread, just before I signed off for the night, thinking it was just a fire on a few floors. Then someone posts that a plane hit it, then I go to cnn.com, which was hammered, so I asked my parents if anything had been on TV, again nothing so I kept following the forums.

Then half an hour later every TV and radio station was playing live CNN and BBC broadcasts, and I'm talking to all my friends on icq telling them to turn on their TV's. I stayed up most of the night watching the events unfold, it still freaks me to recount everything that happened. It was one of the most uncertainty filled nights I've lived through. The entire next day I spent at university listening to the web-broadcasts between classes and reading the newspaper in class.

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I remember after walking in to network engineering from math and hearing everyone talking about it. A few of us just joked about it at first, since we had no clue what was going on. And then after that for the rest of the day I skipped classes and watched the news.


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I'm different.

Jesus. Brings things back.

It was odd timing for me, since just a few days prior I had been thinking about how my generation had no defining moment, no shared pain. No Kennedy assassination, no great war. I was thinking how it wasn't fair that we had no great moments in common, and how I wanted to have lived through history.

Watching CNN that morning, I just kept thinking "No I don't no I don't no I don't..." over and over. As if to say "I didn't mean it" to God or something. Eesh.

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Go Johnny Go Go Go Go!!!!!

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God, it was a terrible sensation, I realized that my generation had just earned its "Where were you when...?" question.




Very true. It happened around 1.45 p.m. Irish time and I was at home getting ready to go to England the next day. Someone on a local message board posted 'omg turn on your tv two planes have hit the World Trade Centre!!' and I was 'oh piss off and stop messing', but when I did put on Sky News

What made me feel angry was just after the first tower collapsed they had some financial expert knob-end on discussing what the catastrophe might mean for the futures market - like fuck off.

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It's intersting to go back through ICQ transcripts with friends...definitely makes you relive the moment...

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Wow monkeu is a fucking foghat.
"Watch Bush start a war". Like it was unwarranted.
It would have been so much better to sit on our asses and do nothing. Yes. Sure. Right. Idiot.


quote:
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I can't believe that they got the Pantagon.



LOL, yeah we expected the Pentagon could outmaneuver a plane.


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Okay, three attacks so far-- anymore?

I'm staying the FUCK away from the Liberty Bell!



Gold.

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HAIL TO THE CHIMP!

I was in bed watching the late news (the plane hit at 11:45pm on 11/9 here in Australia) and I figure I must have turned it off less than 5 minutes before it all happened.

So I slept through the night, unawares, then at 6 a.m. my Mum comes in and wakes me up, "did you hear? terrorists have attacked the USA, the world trade center buildings are destroyed, then a plane crashed into the pentagon and another one was supposed to be headed for the white house!."

For maybe 10 seconds or so I just had that silent "oh shit oh shit oh shit the world is falling to bits what the hell is going on" feeling then I turned on the news and watched it for a couple of hours.

Then I remember the local TV stations feeding us CNN live (we NEVER get CNN on free to air TV) for about a day and a half, and how CNN jumped the gun and reported on gunfire that a reporter had witnessed in Kabul (remember the shitty videophone images?) and then the following 24 hours where there was no real new news and they just repeated the same footage of the plane hitting every 15 minutes etc.


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quote:
Mickazee came out of the closet to say:
It's intersting to go back through ICQ transcripts with friends...definitely makes you relive the moment...


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GeistEdito 9/11/200 2:25 PM This is one of those things where the instant you see it you know it's the next "Jeff K" or "Moon Landing"

Fistgrrl 9/11/200 2:25 PM Hahaaha Jeff K???

GeistEdito 9/11/200 2:26 PM hahahah typo, sorry.

Fistgrrl 9/11/200 2:26 PM Oh my!

GeistEdito 9/11/200 2:26 PM hahaha what a faux pas!!

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The Pickity Witches have stolen my stitches.

Awww no USA flag sigs?

The comment I hated the most from that whole event, be it on the forums or otherwise was, "It's just like in a movie!"

03-05 11:34
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Shit, I'm not going to even BOTHER reading this right now. Mainly because I posted some pointless hate-fueled stupidity about nuking whoever was responsible, and also because I had a three fucking day long anxiety attack after where I could barely move.

My recollection:

I woke up, watched the news, and around 8:30 (the first hit at 8:45 or something, right?) I went into the bathroom to take my regular dose of medicine and brush my teeth. I came out and there was a special report on Fox 5 NY that SOMETHING just crashed into the building. It didn't look that bad yet, and people were still looking at it and theorizing on whether or not it was a small plane or a missile.

This is the same network where the desk anchorman and the field reporter had a little fight-of-words that was featured on The Daily Show a while back. And they started arguing about whether or not it was a small plane or a missile (the field reporter thought it was a missile because it exploded outwards or something). The field reporter said something like, "Well you think what you want to but there's no way..."

And then the second plane hit. I heard my dad yell "Oh shit!" from the kitchen. Up until the second plane hit, I had just thought a small single engine plane had accidentally collided with the building. I was so upset I didn't really want to go to school. But my dad told me I had to, and he drove me. (My car was in the shop.) I don't remember what we talked about it on the way there, but when he dropped me off I walked past the bookstore and there was a guy with a radio explaining to some students that they WERE huge passenger jets, and everyone on them was gone - including one that just crashed into the pentagon. I decided there was no way I was going to be able to stay in class today, but my dad was already gone so I went anyway.

My friend was listening to the radio, and everyone (a lot of people stayed home) were clicking through various news sites, trying to find one that wasn't shut down from all the bandwith hogging going on. My teacher walked in, and after a brief discussion (including how this can't stop our lives), he started trying to get everyone to calm down by starting an easy lesson on Quark. But I decided I needed some air, so I left. My friend followed me, and so did the rest of the class. On the way out I saw my professor talking to the Dean, saying how it's not right to keep kids in class today - he couldn't even if he wanted to. The Dean agreed, but I didn't stick around to see what else happened. I went outside, called my mom, and waited. I kept looking up at the sky, looking for planes, but there were none. I thought it was pretty eerie, and seeing a plane in the air might have actually helped ease my anxiety a little - nothing seemed normal.

When I got home, there was that footage of debris chasing a large crowd ID4-style through Manhattan playing everywhere. Finally I switched on Comedy Central (God bless you, CC, your devotion to playing FIVE FUCKING CONSECUTIVE SNL RERUNS FROM THE WORST SEASONS OF IT EVER know no bounds.), and fell asleep.

The next three days were a total blur, as I was shaking and sleeping off my anxiety too much to know exactly what was going on. Thankfully, I came to grips with the fact that everyone I knew was okay, and I snapped out of it.

THE ENDINGS


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Roads? Where we're going we don't need...roads.

I did my own bit of archiving on 9/11, but didn't happen to catch this thread. Thanks.

I do remember that day as if it were yesterday, as I suspect most people do. Living in NY, every broadcast channel was out on 9/11, except for CBS. But that didn't matter, because my main source of information was the forums and IRC. Why just get one source of information, when you can have hundreds of people all reporting in to one central location?

After running to the roof, and seeing the plume of smoke rising from downtown, I ran back to the lounge just in time to see the first tower collapse. Then, was in my room to catch the second tower falling. Like so many others have said before, this is our "Where were you when" moment. I can only hope we have another of those moments, specifically "Where were you when you heard they got Bin Laden?"

Oh, and for my own bit of archiving, I give you the SA Goon Cam Portals All Cams page from sometime either late on 9/11 or early on 9/12. The cams run a wide gamut, ranging from the tasteless to the touching. All red X's are either ones that were red X's on the day, or cam pics that I deleted because they hadn't been updated since August. Hope my hosting doesn't crap out.


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schnitzelbonk!

Then as now, I didn't have a cable connection, so I effectively didn't have a TV, per se. For some reason my folks never called me about it. I wasn't a forum goon at that point yet, in fact I don't think I was aware of Something Awful yet.

Anyway, I left for classes at about 9:36-ish.

I live in Northern Virginia, just South of the Pentagon, so as I drive on my way to George Mason University, the Pentagon is just off to my right. Just after I departed on my way to class, I saw a plane fly past, and found it very curious that it was flying as fast and low as it was, and not even in the direction of Reagan National Airport. It really dogged my mind all the way to the access ramp onto the capital beltway, whereupon my "C'mon, nothing ever happens to/near me, and when it does, I don't see it firsthand" reflex took over. I should mention that my car radio wasn't working very well, so I'd left it off. Understanding the news would've been an effort, the reception gets so bad at certain temperatures.

When I got to the campus student parking lot, someone was parked next to my space whose radio was working fine, and the announcers were reacting to the news that the World Trade Center was on fire, and that the North tower had just collapsed. I refused to assume, even at that point, that any of that stuff had happened, but I was pretty sure something unbelievable had just happened in New York. I'd already forgotten, believe it or not, about the plane I'd just seen.

Once I got into class they told me what was up. They even had a picture on the net of the Pentagon on fire! It was only then that it hit me-I'd just seen a hijacked plane en route to the Pentagon as it made its "final approach".

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quote:
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Oh, and for my own bit of archiving, I give you the SA Goon Cam Portals All Cams page from sometime either late on 9/11 or early on 9/12. The cams run a wide gamut, ranging from the tasteless to the touching. All red X's are either ones that were red X's on the day, or cam pics that I deleted because they hadn't been updated since August. Hope my hosting doesn't crap out.



Wow, almost all of the people I know are total dickheads just reaffirmed that with their "hilarious" or "politically insightful" cam images. I can't believe some of those fucking cocksuckers still post here.

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I dance for the Japanese men.

quote:
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I have to remind myself that it was happening in real time, because reading some of the comments there really pisses me off. Some of the hate and some of the stupidity, honestly probably more the stupidity, but I don't think the people being stupid even realize it now when they reread it.
Hell, when I made my comment about the local band all that was known at the time was that the building was on fire. Everything else was just rumor. All the evidence and pics of the GAPING GOATSE HOLE in the building were after-the-fact updates.

quote:
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I am so going to hell for laughing as hard as I did after reading that.
I think a lot of us Goons are gonna turn that place upside down once we invade the afterlife.


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HERE COMES THE CYCLOPS!

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[08:58] <iscariot> wtf happned to the world trade center? [08:58] <Hee-La> plane flew into it [08:58] <Hee-La> ? [08:58] <Hee-La> not sure [08:58] <Hee-La> some sa bitches yelling about it .... [09:02] <iscariot> dude [09:02] <iscariot> oh shit [09:02] <iscariot> WTF [09:02] <iscariot> WTF [09:02] <Hee-La> holy fuck [09:02] <Hee-La> what was that [09:03] <iscariot> another impact [09:03] <Hee-La> was that nother plane?? ... [09:05] <iscariot> mr. bin ladin is a winner


that's pretty much where i was and what i was doing.

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I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green!


Taken from the pier a block from my apartment the next day.

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The big one. (870K)

If anyone still finds this as humorous as they did on they day this happened (I remember seeing quite a few assholes on this forum) please post your address here so I can visit you and throw you through a fucking wall.

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"I AM THE DUNGEON MASTER!!!"

I just remember not being able to sleep AT ALL for the ENTIRE NIGHT....then I turned on the teevee to several thousand people dying in the span of an hour. Traumatized? You betcha.


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My memories:

9/11 was a Tuesday, one of my 8AM-class days (Mountain time) so I was completely oblivious to the world when i got up. No TV, no forums, no nothing. I did what I always do, wander to class in a semi-conscious state. My English prof came in looking a bit tired and disorganized - strange, for a meticulous guy that generally looked spotless. He said "Has anyone not seen the news?"

About half our class just blank-stared at him. "Planes hit both of the Twin Towers this morning." Dead silence.

We stumble through class, and afterwards I haul ass to the media building. My journalism prof is already there, as well as the head AV guy, who has hooked up the bigscreen (normally used for monitoring) to cable so we can see what's going on. We spend the next two hours just watching CNN in complete silence. I knew it wouldn't do any good to try and call friends, as Eastern phonelines would probably be jammed up beyond reason, and I couldn't get through anyway.

God damn. The only thing I can remember from that morning is wanting to contact a couple of friends who were both serving in the military, to see if they were going to be called.

And the stories that got passed down over the next week about the passengers that took that plane back...


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corsair
Registered: 01-01

Caboose on the MANTRAIN!

I was sitting in my office as I am right now when my wife called and told me a plane had crashed into the WTC, she asked what friends of mine were in the building. As she was speaking to me the second plane hit and she was screaming. I told her I had to make some phone calls. I knew a lot of people in the South Tower. Most made it out, but three of my friends didn't.

03-05 12:58
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biznatchio
Registered: 03-01

Technical Superhero of the Gods

The Television Archive has the 9/11 broadcasts from quite a few channels stored and available for streaming ... it's extremely unsettling going back and watching it all "live" again.


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03-05 13:02
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Erasmus Darwin
Registered: 03-01

TROLL

I look at this, and I still don't feel anything. It's just hard to get worked up over 2,000 deaths, especially with all the drunk driving deaths, murders, rapes, and other horrible things that go on every day. Futhermore, any initial upset I felt was proportionally muted as the bodycount fell from the initial estimates to something in the neighborhood of 1/25th of its original value.

I dunno. Maybe I'm a horrible monster, but I just can't feel anything for 2,000 anonymous, random strangers. Likewise, I don't feel bad about the fact that those 2,000 anonymous, random strangers likely wouldn't have felt particularly bad if they were informed of my death. ("Erasmus who?")

03-05 13:03
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Registered: 01-01

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quote:

]L33t_Hax0r had this to say about Robocop:
quote:
jet sanchEz had this to say about Robocop:
Hrm, yeah, says at cnn.com that a plane has crashed into it...hope it isn't some terrorist attack or anything nutty like that.


what the fuck do you mean!?!??! terrorists probably did cause the plane to crash into the Werld Trade Center.

now they got the world trade center... just like they got aaliyah!!1!!

*Wahhh



i was the first to suspect terrorists. but back then i had barely heard the name Osama Bin Laden.


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03-05 13:07
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SemiBadAss
Registered: 07-01


I will bask in our disaster if it'll phase us out.

Just wanted to say, thanks for doing this. For lots of us that were at work that day, the forums were the only source of up to the minute news we had. There's been memorable threads here before, and there will be again - but no thread will touch this one as far as historical significance goes. Or even the way that these forums came together after that, with all the different nationalities having tributes in their sigs, or giving moral support to us Americans. It's times like these that make this place really special. Sorta sad to think that now we joke about it, make tasteless photoshops about it, and so on.


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03-05 13:11
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Erasmus Darwin
Registered: 03-01

TROLL

quote:
SemiBadAss came out of the closet to say:
Sorta sad to think that now we joke about it, make tasteless photoshops about it, and so on.


"We laugh because it hurts." -- Robert Heinlein
"Comedy is tragedy plus time." -- Woody Allen

Also, I'd recommend reading "The Road to Mars" by Eric Idle. The book presents some interesting thoughts on the nature of comedy (before eventually wandering out into left field).

03-05 13:22
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YancyDCjew
Registered: 02-02


That is a pretty wild thread. DarthVersace post is amazing looking back on it. Especially at that point when not many people were pointing fingers.

On another note, I live in downtown Washington, DC, about 8 blocks from the White House. I heard the explosion at the Pentagon, and saw as the news gave a view. From the angle it was shot from Lafayette Park, it looked like a plane had crashed into the national mall or the capitol. Someone else said there was a car bomb at the department of state, literally about 3 blocks from me. I lent my bike to a guy from ABC news to deliver batteries and tapes, because traffic was so gridlocked. I hope our kids never have to feel so uneasy about being in America as we did that day.


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03-05 13:35
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grzydj
Registered: 10-00

I will answer your questions about Gore-Tex.

Wow, that's amazing to go back and read. I still recall looking at that thread, and my sister calling me at work totally frantic, she though the world was going to end, as did a lot of other people.

I just up and left work. I went home and watched the events unfold on television right in front of my eyes, and I cried. I hadn't cried forever. It was so overwhelming, callused news anchors stumbled over their words; everybody was in a slight state of shock.

I watched the first tower collapse. It was too much for me. I grabbed an old TV in the closet and went back to work and plugged it in next to my desk. My co-workers and I all stood stunned as we watched the second tower fall. There wasn’t anything to do or say that made sense.

This event has changed everybody’s lives, no matter where you live.

Thanks for having the good judgment of archiving that.


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03-05 13:38
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greatn
Registered: 12-01

goodn just got better!

Wow, that really makes me mad how the news companies were giving so much god damn speculation and flase rumors at the time.

03-05 13:43
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Ayla
Registered: 09-01


I seriously remember this like it was yesterday, considering I was sitting on the same seat, staring at the same computer, in the same office I was on the 11th. Very early in the morning I was trying to do some catch-up work on last week's stuff, and this co-worker walks into my office saying nothing but "A plane just crashed into the WTC." The complete lack of understanding of the magnitutde of what happened is shocking to me today. I simply remember thinking "WTF ??" when he came back with news that another plane crashed into the second building. That was one fucked up day.

03-05 13:44
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GPF
Registered: 07-00

TUCH MI PEEPEE!

Reading through the thread made my stomach tighten involuntarily. Lots of strong emotions.


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03-05 13:51
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thisdude23
Registered: 07-01

Kool-Aid r0x0rs my s0x0rs.

I'm gonna read through this in a few. I still remember seeing the second tower fall on TV (which I didn't know was the second at the time). I thought it was a drunk airline pilot and cracked a few jokes, but then when I heard what it was, I quit the jokes and was just stunned by it all. I wasn't a regular poster here at the time when this happened so thanks for the reading info.

03-05 13:56
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AnimeFreak
Registered: 12-00

Forums Historian who sucks at backups

It was a disturbing day, if not month, and it still haunts me to this day.

It was very scary that morning as I got up and then when I walked upstairs, the TV was on. I looked at the TV and there was a giant fire coming out of one of the towers, then a few minutes later I saw the second plane hit LIVE. After all of that, a few hours or something later I saw the towers collapse. Very, very disturbing.

What made it even worse is the fact that I thought my uncle worked in that tower since he worked in New York for CitiBank as a systems adminstrator. It turns out he is in another building but it was a scary few days wondering about him.

At least now they've managed to take about 45% of the rubble away.


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03-05 13:58
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yarbles
Registered: 06-01


I found the thread more infuriating than anything else. I did appreciate the thought though.

quote:
Would Bush's missle defense have stopped this?


That was posted in the 9/11 thread, i don't remember who said it though. I had to listen to trash like that for about 40 minutes on the metro train on the ride home on 9/11. (I work for the gov't in rockville, MD; we were sent home early)

In between two stations, this guy is still talking about how missile defense is a waste of money and HE tried to tell everyone. "It wouldn't have stopped the plane from crashing into the pentagon now would it? This is what I've been saying the whole time"

WE COULD SEE THE PENTAGON SMOKING FROM THE TRAIN!

I hate people like that. The DC area is infested with them. You can wait to say "i told you" so for a goddamn week can't you?

03-05 14:03
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NotShadowStar
Registered: 09-00

NA NA NA NA I'm just a Love Machine!

Thank you very much for posting that. It reminded me of what that day REALLY was about.

For all the goddamn commerciasim that has went on with this, it is really hard to remember how it actually was. With the 'buy this for 9/11' 'we care about 9/11 so buy our stuf' 'here is a tribute to 9/11 done horribly so buy stuff from us and our sponsors'. The horrible tacky American flags plastered on people's cars.

It's funny how Americans have to ruin pretty much everything. 'Never forget'? Look at cnn.com. Most of the time they have lots of other news and just a tiny corner dealing with current events on middle-eastern and Asian developments.

While a small percentage of this might even be good intentions, it doesn't help me at all. Whenever I see 'WTC Commerative' crap, I ignore it. The death of a few thousand people in an instant (and some not so instantly unfortunatly) as an attack on a group of people just because they don't like is nothing that should be made light of, and the person responsible has no common sense that is built into simple animals... but I would have thought this would have made people take a look at themselves. Alas, it just made all of our weak points even weaker and people think that it is okay.

Again, I thank you for reminding us what it REALLY was like, and what 9/11 and the WTC disaster REALLY means. Its strange and rather sad that an archive on the Internet of a bunch of geeks talking has more effect than anything else.

03-05 14:04
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MXLPLX
Registered: 05-01


NON-SEQUITUR

Thanks for the archive. I missed the thread completely the first time around for related reasons. I have a cousin who worked their and between the chaos I got caught up in at work, combined with my family trying to get ahold of him, I was away for the entire week. Thankfully, he had quit the job a month before and was at a new firm upstate.


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I wasn't posting here when that went down but my experience was similar. I live in Brooklyn and I didn't have to be in the city until 10:30 so I was just getting up when the first plane hit. I knew something was terribly wrong because I had never heard so many sirens. I mean it's NY, we hear sirens all the time, but I had never heard so many non-stop. In retrospect most of those sirens I heard were the first responders that lost so many lives including my neighborhood fire dept. which lost over half their squad. As soon as I turned on the TV I was naturally shocked. I watched the second plane hit on TV and I was stunned. I tried calling my sister in the city but of course I couldn't get through. Thank god for IM. I was able to quickly communicate with her and my parents in addition to my coworkers and other friends in the city.

I ran to the roof of my building and watched the scene with a few other people. It was terrible. Cops had blocked off the roads, you could see gridlock and panic everywhere. As we were watching the scene in horror someone said somthing about the towers possibly falling. My quote was "No way! Those are some of the strongest and best designed building in the world. No way they'll fall dammit." About 30 seconds later the first on ewent down. I almost fell to my knees. I wanted to vomit. I was so close yet I could hardly hear it. I felt a wave of silent screams and death. I went downstairs in shock. I went to another message board I moderate where a similar tableau as what was posted here was unfolding.

That next night I had a moment of clarity during a typical news marthon. I was sitting there watching a scene at ground zero and I knew that I had to do something, anything. I couldn't sit there anymore. My girl was almost frantic as I put my shoes on and grabbed my skateboard but I said "Please don't make me feel bad for doing this." I went and volunteered with the Salvation Army at ground zero for about 5 days. It was hell on earth and I saw things that I'm still trying to process.

Being down there, I was struck by the unity of purpose and selflessness being displayed by a group of vastly different strangers. People were down there risking their lives without a second thought, just trying to do anything to make it better. Despite the abject horror of the situaion, I left there with more faith in humanity than I ever possesed before.

If you'd like to see a more in depth account of my sister and I's experiences as documented by her emails to my family during those days check out her archive site. It also has some pictures that I took while there and some ones of the city and it's reactions.

http://www.warriorpalace.com/wtc

Please take a second and sign the guest book if you can.


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03-05 14:13
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Mike Toole
Registered: 04-01

I dance for the Japanese men.

Good gravy, that was a hell of a day. Thank you for archiving that thread-- I followed it from the VERY FIRST message until the SA forums went down a couple of hours later. It was actually kind of funny, in a way, because since cnn.com and most of the other major news sites were down, *I* was the major news conduit in the office, as far as what was going on in NYC. Then they got cable working.

Got a call from my dad at about 10:00am: GO HOME. Got a call from girlfriend shortly thereafter: I'M GOING HOME. (She worked in the Prudential, one of the largest buildings in Boston, so she had good reason to be extra skittish.) Then the towers fell, and my boss made everyone go home.

I cycled home, as I usually did. It was the strangest thing. Gridlock in the whole city. My normal smugness at being able to weave through heavy traffic easily on the bicycle wasn't there, though. Too much of the traffic was people screaming into cellphones and blaring emergency vehicles.

I spent the rest of the day on the couch, holding my girlfriend's hand and humming "99 Red Balloons" by Nene, and watching the news.

Hell of a day.


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mr box
Registered: 03-01


quote:
Don Incognito came out of the closet to say:
Awww no USA flag sigs?

The comment I hated the most from that whole event, be it on the forums or otherwise was, "It's just like in a movie!"



quote:
mr box on the 911 thread said the following:
THIS IS LIKE A MOVIE BUT IT'S FUCKING REAL.


WELL IT WAS.

03-05 14:18
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Rakthar
Registered: 07-00

What was that? This is not a chawade! We need total concentwation! Now. Do it again, this time, with feewing.

Just like now, every single time I saw DarthVersace's sig in that thread, I had to grind my teeth. Thank goodness people get yelled at for that sort of thing now

As for the 9/11 events, the only part that brings me close to tears is the photo of the german policeman putting down the flowers at the US embassy. I don't know why, maybe because it conveys everyone's helplessness, the ability to only show a token gesture, or how people around the world unified for a little while, but I have to say I learned a lot about humanity.

Somewhere, deep inside, there's a lot of good, kidness, and support within us. And no matter what people say about the inherent evil or apathy or anything else about humans - I have a lot more faith than I did before.

03-05 14:35
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SlowHand
Registered: 10-00


Learn to swim.

Great archiving job! I got the news from that thread when it was just a few pages long, it's kinda spooky to see it again.

03-05 14:46
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IRQ
Registered: 09-01

I'm evil, and would like you to waste your money on me

That day sucked.

Interesting to read that though, it was just after I'd registered, still had the newbie avatar and everything. I guess it's good to have a record like that, that you were personally a part of, gives it more impact, lets you really remember what you felt. Pictures just won't do that. What I remember thinking is "Fuck, this was well planned, what's next?". My dad working so close to the white house asn't exactly a fun idea either.

Thanks for archiving this.

03-05 14:53
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TV's Ian
Registered: 06-00

I AM ERROR

I was in Manhattan that day, but I couldn't see from where I was. Actually, I didn't even know it was happening until I got to work and loaded up SA.

I was on the train in at around 9:00, and I overheard somebody in my car talking about a plane. Whetever he was talking about was getting a lot of interest, but nobody seemed really concerned.

Then I took the subways from Penn Station up to 110th St., but for some reason they were running really slow, and they were incredibly crowded.

Then I got to work, loaded up SA, saw the huge thread, and turned to the woman at the desk next to me and said, "Ummm... What's going on?"

From that point on, I kept up on the Internet, reporting to the rest of the office what was going on (thanks to SA while it was up, the IRC channel, and a UK news page that happened to be accessible). They didn't know about the Pentagon at that point. I couldn't call home due to the phone lines being swamped, but I managed to get my office on the cell phone (just long enough to say, "I'm OK, tell my parents"), then talk to my mom on AIM.

Not too long after I got there, somebody charged in from the office next door and said, "The towers are collpasing!" We all went over and watched on a 2" portable TV while they fell.

Sometime after noon, I headed from the office where I was to the nursing home two blocks away. Their supply clerk was really broken up about it - I've never seen a grown man wail like he did. I ducked into the server room to continue the AIM conversation, and try to decide if I should stay then night or try to get home.

Around 5, the MTA's web page was reporting the subways were operational up to 34th street, and limited trains were running out of Penn. So I signed off and started the thre blocks to the subway station. The bell at St. Johns was tolling (never heard it before that day), and there was almost nobody on the street. Really creepy. But the subway showed up and ran to 42nd Street. So I had to walk the last 8 blocks.

That was just really weird. I started off the wrong way, then got my bearings and headed towards Penn. I wound up behind a group of executives of some sort, they seemed mostly unfazed by the whole situation. But even they thought that walking down the middle of 7th Avenue during rush hour was a truly odd experience. I don't think I saw a single car on the orad - just a couple of taxis pulled over to the curb with the drivers just sitting there watching the smoke. A couple was getting mad at one driver because they apparently wanted to go somewhere, and he wasn't driving. I just shot them the evil eye.

I go to Penn just as a train to Huntington was arriving. So I piled on (the train was packed), called home, and we took off. I think everybody on the train swung around to see the new skyline as we got out of the tunnel, but it was already getting dark, and we couldn't see very well. Also on the ride home, I saw that the Scientology building in Hicksville had set up a "Grief Counseling" booth outside. That really ticked me off for some reason. Later I'd find out about their whole preventing-people-from-getting-real-help deal. Bastards.

But I made it home around 8:00, and the boss decided to skip going into Manahttan again until the next week. The next week, I actually had to go to the Empire State Building for another client. ID checks, metal detectors, X-Rays... That was quite a switch from the last time I was there.

I still have a pair of LIRR tickets dated 9/11/01 in my wallet. They'll probably be there for a long time yet.

03-05 15:03
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Adar
Registered: 07-01

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I was at college in Manhattan, on the Upper East Side, that morning. When I got there around 9, someone said that a plane crashed into a tower, but everyone assumed it was a Cessna and we went right back to class.

Class went as normal until 10:30, when we took a break. By then, I'm sure people knew, but no one had thought of going door to door and announcing it.

So, I was clueless until I went outside. Someone had a cell phone and said another plane had hit the other tower and a third hit the Pentagon. I did think of Osama right away, but mostly, I was still taking it lightly. How could a tower that big come down?

Then I went back upstairs, to the library, where there was a TV, and saw the image of one tower standing where two should have been. There was already a crowd around it. Someone was crying, saying that their sister worked in the building. Someone else was asking how the CIA blew it that badly. Most people were just stunned. So was the announcer, who kept saying something about the Washington Mall, the State Department, the Capitol building, and Congress all being bombed.

I ran back to class and managed to stammer out the information to the people milling outside of it, who, by then, had realized something was wrong and were listening to a radio. My face was probably as white as it's ever been.

I immediately knew I had to either go home or help downtown, but there was probably nothing I could do- I have no medical skills and if there was anything they had plenty of down there, it was manpower. The subways were shut down, so I walked to the nearest bridge, the Queensboro, where I joined the exodus out of the city. On the way, a guy with a car had the door open and the radio blasting a live report from downtown; the reporter, crying, was saying that the second tower had just come down and thousands were dead.

When I got to the bridge, ten or twelve of the longest blocks in my life later, the scene was surreal. There were a few people who were laughing and joking about a day off, but most were either as white faced as me or crying. It was like a slow motion marathon in reverse. One side of the bridge was entirely emergency traffic; occasionally, when the EMT's and fire engines passed by, some of us would cheer them. The other was a mass of people walking out, except for the occasional emergency car that would be slowly trying to drive the other way through them. I'm pretty sure what was going through my head was a mix of 'I think I'll have to volunteer if the draft comes up' and 'Osama Bin Laden is a dead man'; I was almost sure it was him, but I was really not willing to think about the towers just yet.

And then we hit the middle of the bridge, where the cloud of smoke I'd been seeing and smelling the whole time turned into a bird's eye view of the site.

That was still the only time I've ever seen it live. I've been downtown since then; I've gone to the Greenwich Village Halloween parade even though no one else I asked would, simply because I needed to make a statement to myself; I've seen it on TV about a thousand times.

But what I saw there is something I'll never, ever forget.

Stay safe, everyone.


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quote:
Huge_Midget came out of the closet to say:
Here is a screencap of GQ's reply.

http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~conwelkg/funny/Photoshopped/GQ911.JPG



Thanks for the screen cap, I never cap'd his response and I've wanted to have it around...that thread was kind of weird because all of the SA groups stopped bitching and complaining for once

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Registered: 11-00

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I feel the need to harm anti-orp after reading that archive.

03-05 15:22
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HatfulOfHollow
Registered: 09-00

Pretty girls make graves...

I was surfing when it happened. I came back and found my dad's girlfriend sitting on the porch watching tv. Right when I walked in the door I saw the second plane hit...

Usually when I get out of the ocean I take a shower as soon as I get home. That day I just sat on the couch shaking.

I called one of my friends and yelled at him to wake the fuck up and he said something along teh lines of "shut up i'm trying to sleep." He hung up on me...

Twenty minutes later he calls back and says "holy shit."

Watching peter jennings break down on tv was too much. I had to turn it off. I don't remember if I ever showered. I remember that I was visibly shaken, but I didn't cry.

I went out surfing again the next day. The whole time I was thinking. I live about an hour from dover airforce base and I kept seeing jets flying overhead... more than usual. I kept thinking that it was such a large scale attack that more was probably planned. I didn't even catch any waves. I paddled out past the break and just drifted with the current. The ocean is the calmest place I know of... especially in the morning.

At that time I still didn't now all the details. I kept thinking about all the people that died. About war. Nuclear war. War on our soil. Martial law being instituted...

I thought about death...

And I finally cried...

As I floated around on my board the day after the attacks I cried.

Reading this thread brought back so many painful memories.


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03-05 15:27
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jest
Registered: 03-01

Get in the jail.

Ugh, I remember this.

My fucking school didn't even let us listen to the radio, and told us just that 'planes have hit the towers, and go back to work.'

Most teachers were nice enough to turn on a radio though. My principal is a fucking scumwhore.


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ntd
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quote:
jest came out of the closet to say:
Ugh, I remember this.

My fucking school didn't even let us listen to the radio, and told us just that 'planes have hit the towers, and go back to work.'

Most teachers were nice enough to turn on a radio though. My principal is a fucking scumwhore.



Fuck, I wasn't in school but I'm confident we would be allowed to have watched the coverage (College started the week after )

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03-05 15:37
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Hiruko
Registered: 08-00


quote:
Erasmus Darwin came out of the closet to say:
I look at this, and I still don't feel anything. It's just hard to get worked up over 2,000 deaths, especially with all the drunk driving deaths, murders, rapes, and other horrible things that go on every day. Futhermore, any initial upset I felt was proportionally muted as the bodycount fell from the initial estimates to something in the neighborhood of 1/25th of its original value.

I dunno. Maybe I'm a horrible monster, but I just can't feel anything for 2,000 anonymous, random strangers. Likewise, I don't feel bad about the fact that those 2,000 anonymous, random strangers likely wouldn't have felt particularly bad if they were informed of my death. ("Erasmus who?")



I feel the same way. I always find myself being emotionally detached from situations like this, and during 9/11 I don't remember have any feelings towards the event other than "Wow, this is pretty interesting." Even later that day, my Dad and I were making jokes about what happened. Nothing really cruel, but neither one of us were overwhelmed with grief or anything.

I first heard it happened in my Economics class, when the teacher next door poked his head in and said that a plane just crashed into the WTC. We couldn't turn on the TV, because the cable was out in our room. I figured it was just a crazy guy with a Cessna and payed no further attention. Lunch was next, and I learned some more details, such as the plane was actually a passenger jet, and a second plane had crashed. I then left for home, not because I was worried or anything like that, but because I had planned on skipping. I went home and watched the news. My biggest concern from then on, I remember, was when I heard businesses were shutting down for the day, and I was hoping the mall would close too so I wouldn't have to go in for work.

Like I said, I was never scared or upset or angry, and most of my freinds felt the same way. I'm not trying to sound like a badass or a troll or anything, but more trying to convey a bizarre sense of emotional detatchment I have. I didn't know anyone who died, so why should I care?

One thing I did get angry at where the annoying instances of conspicuous consumption I would see from the next day on. Flags and stickers were put on cars...only to be taken down a a few months later. Portal goons felt it necessary to show the rest of the community that they too were upset by getting the perfect shot of them weeping with their head buried in their hands (or 'hand,' I should say. I could never take those pictures seriously when I noticed that one hand was always offscreen to get the still shot).

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I bearly remeber that day.. just being in class and watchingthe tv and thinkingthe whole time that it was a big joke.... and now after reading your threads from that day.... kinda makes me want to fucking cry again..

The as the minute shit was so drastic and insane that for a moment everyone was on the same boat.. and then like 2 days later.. the fucvcking media just ripped it to shreads with their god damn "America at war" banners and their music and now that i remeber what it ws like on that day i feel really bad about being so against everyhting that has happened since then...

And again i have made no sense ... gomen... Oh and thanks for giving me something other then studying to do.


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..I think in that moment I could have done almost anything, seeing men, women and children fired upon, people who were not armed fired upon by policemen. August Theodore Vincent Spies

quote:
Hayama came out of the closet to say:
Jesus Christ, how can anyone EVER say that about the WTC attack, let alone while it's still happening? I know it's just idiotic trolling, but... ugh...


a) There were many "lets bomb arabs into dust" posts.
i) look at oklahoma city bombing
ii) unabomber, etc
iii) AMERICANS.

b) There are SO many fundamentalist christian groups like the michigan state militia, that one group that was stopped from trying to do something in israel (anyone remember this? year ago i think), christian fundie groups in israel that were operating there a while back, etc.

c) I stand by my question from day 1 of why would they attack symbols of monetary diplomacy/capitalism and militancy

d) Most of the WTC bombers are from Saudi Arabia, a US ally

e) training was done all over the world inc germany and the US

f) no probes into the attack, administration doesnt want any. DOESNT THIS MAKE YOU FEEL ODD? They speak nothing of an israeli spy ring operating on communications networks that was busted shortly ago in the US. Nothing of the canadian dude who said he tried to get a warning out. Makes this look STRANGELY familiar to JFK, how secret services fucked up big time.. looks like someones avoiding scandal.

g) War, immediate war, on afghanistan, osama no doubt, who had no part in this, ignoring the taliban's request of turning over documentation of his convictions which we did not posses nor had the ability to get. The taliban on the news emerged into osama's army, which it was not. Al-queda's leaders and osama escaped easily out of our bumbling grasp, leaving us to carpet bomb mountains of scapegoats with cluster bombs, most of which are non-detonated, lying around blowing up civilians every day.

h) Talk shows etc covering the topic, esp leno where various macho actors came on giving tributes to the soldiers and letting "raghead" comments slip, talking about the TERRISTS and osama bin laden. Rampant ignorance of all facts.

i) Newspapers/tv/etc printing stories that had no factual background, just random people reporting what they see. Last time I called up CNN talking about the SOA or the cause of the december uprisings in argentina being the IMF, they didn't really care.

conclusion: NEVER FORGET.


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I am stalking all the women on this forum.

wow, I remember reading all that. Its amazing, living through the events of that day. I almost broke down rereading all those posts.


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9/11: Chicago
I would have been walking towards the train station when the first plane hit, and on the train to Chicago when the second one did. I didn't hear anyone say anything, so had no idea anything was out of the ordinary until I got up to my office.

In the hallway outside our suite's door, I could hear that high-pitched electronic whine that a television makes coming from the office next door. I didn't think anything of it, and went into my workplace, where I heard everyone who was there in the conference room watching the little TV. I asked what was up, and they told me that a plane had crashed into each of the Trade Center towers.

Like everyone else here, I thought "Cessna or Piper Cub or something," but then they told me that they were big commercial airliners. I said the obligatory "Holy shit," (and my heart started sinking and pounding) and then we realized that A) the upper floors of the Sears Tower are across the street from us (we're on the 61st floor of the building next door), and B) looking past the Sears Tower, we're high enough up that we can see O'Hare International Airport, and some of the straggling planes that hadn't landed yet. Also, at this point I (like many others, I'm sure) immediately said "Osama bin Laden did this." We all knew it right away.

Of course, it was at this time that the news was talking about a fourth plane that was missing, last spotted (so they said at the time) in eastern Ohio. We honestly thought that it could easily have been headed towards the nation's tallest building, not 150 feet away from our window (and by this point we also knew that it was being very quickly evacuated). We cleared out of there in the next hour, taking care of some things and calling loved ones, etc., saying we were leaving. By this point, though I didn't actually see it happen, we were hearing reports that the towers had collapsed. I honestly couldn't believe that until I got home at about 10:30 a.m. CST and turned on CNN, which happened to be showing a replay of the first tower going down.

The drive home (I got a ride with a co-worker rather than head into what I'm sure were pretty frantic conditions at Union Station) was pretty surreal - we had AM 780 on, and they were just carrying CBS's audio feed, so it was Dan Rather talking about what was going on. Since pretty much the whole Loop was being evacuated, basically all of the traffic was outbound, and that in itself was a chilling image, because if anyone else was like our car, we kept an eye on the Sears Tower in the rearview mirror, wondering if we'd see it get hit too. Shortly after I got home came the first reports of Flight 93 down in PA, and honest to God, I knew instantly, the second I heard that a plane had gone down in the middle of nowhere, that the passengers had done something. I just knew it. That's still the story out of all of this that emotionally effects me the most. Articles about it, no matter how small, still bring tears to my eyes.

I do remember seeing the beginnings of the SA threads, as the news sites were all down, but by the time I got home SA was also down and Lowtax had the simple index page up that explained why. I spent the whole day in front of the TV, obviously, and recorded about four hours of it. Someday, I will show those tapes to my children, assuming I have some, when they are old enough to understand what that day was like.

I had a friend who was also on an inbound train when it happened, and his wife called his cell phone with the news. He said no one else on the train seemed to have heard yet, and he wasn't sure whether he should stand up and make an announcement or something. As far as I know, he did not, and continued the ride in silence all the way to the city (at which point he turned around and got on the next train out).

I sure gave my sister a rude awakening that morning - she was still at my parent's house because her college hadn't started yet, so she was sleeping late. I called right after I got to work, and woke her up. I said "Turn on the TV NOW." She said "What? What station?" (still half-asleep) I said "any station. Doesn't matter." Right then, I got another call (the boss, telling us all to go the hell home), and then went back to my sister's line. Apparently, that had been right when the first tower collapsed, and she had turned on the TV seconds before it happened. I can't imagine how awful a wakeup call that must have been for her.

Enough of my rambling. Actually, I have one more story from that day to tell, and it's an interesting one. The week beforehand, I had read William Manchester's The Death of a President, which is a fantastically detailed look at the week of Kennedy's assassination. In that book, he talked about how on the day it happened, a lot of people were so upset that they drank and drank to attempt to steady their nerves, but the liquor had no effect. On September 11, I was really a nervecase by the time I got home, and so I decided to test this effect. I drank more than enough liquor to usually get me so drunk that I'd be sick and pass out eventually, but as had been documented, it had no effect. Well, it did take the edge off my nerves, but I felt no intoxicating effects whatsoever even after six or seven stiff drinks. I guess that if the mind is shocked enough, it can override the body's reactions to things.

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How's your pluck?

I remember this thread. SA is where to go first for news.

I was oblivious to what was going on until I was on the way to work. I just hadn't logged on that morning nor watched the news or anything. So heading north on the 405, I heard Danny Bonaduce say that Disneyland was closed, and then people were being spinner on the radio. It took forever to find out what had happened. When I got to work, everyone was quiet and bummed. I read the forums a bit, and then a bunch of us went to the kitchen area to watch stuff on CNN. About a half hour later, we were told to go home.

Anyway, thanks for saving this archived thread. Whoa is all I can think, and it gave me the chills reading it. 0n0g's pics, Al's grief, and so on made me go back to that day. Scary stuff.

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Capitalism gives me a HUGE boner.

Wow, I was just thinking about posting a thread about this on your 9/11 retrospective. Here's what I remember.

I remember I first heard it on the radio on the way to school. I heard something about a plane crash and New York and I thought they were talking about when a plane hit the Empire state building back in the 40's or something, so I payed it little mind. About 20 minutes later when they said that ANOTHER plane had hit, I payed a little more attention. News was scarce and there was very little info coming over the radio, so when I got to school I went to the bookstore and some guy had a CNN stream up on G4. It was really grainy footage but you could make it out that the thing was on fire. I thought it was pretty bad and then my friend told me that the Pentagon had been hit too and I seriously thought he was joking.

So I went to class and didn't think about it too much, but after class I went to one of the lounges which was now crowded with people in silence. I vividly remember seeing the footage of the towers falling playing over and over for the first time. The clouds of dust and fire raining down... it seemed like a movie. It was just such a shock that you couldn't believe what was happening. At that point they were estimating death tolls in the tens of thousands. It was definately one of the most surreal things I've ever had happed, I just couldn't seem to comprehend the magnitude of what had happened.

I went to my next class and then had an hour before I had to go so I just sat and watched the TV in silence the entire time. I remember it was the first time I could sense a very apparent uneasyness in everyone. People were genuinely scared. You could see it in the faces of the anchor people. Even they didn't know what to say. No one knew what to say.

I remember I got home and my whole family did nothing all night. Just sat and watched the news. I don't even remember if we ate supper. The forums were down so I was on IRC for a few hours. And aside from a few fucktards who thought it was a comedy goldmine, (I won't name names.) everyone was united in their shock and sadness.

It was an event unprecidented in all of our lives I'm pretty sure and the world is definately a different place after it. It could sadly be the defining event of our generation. The boomers had JFK and Vietnam; we get terrorism. It'll be one of those things when your older, "Where were you when the planes hit or when the towers fell down?" And people will always remember that. That's about it.

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quote:
MeTa came out of the closet to say:
I also was disgusted by the amount of rettards who didnt realise that there is a time to stop trying to be funny. AL was one of them. I thought better of him for some reason.


unless his demeanor on the forums is some sort of strange act, he's an awful human being. i feel truly sorry for people like him.

and hauntedroad, that is a crazy story, i cant imagine what it would be like to be there. were you able to find out about any of the people that you tried to help, like the guy with the sucking chest wound? do you have any other stories you could share about people you know who were in the vicinity, like coworkers etc?


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I give cancer!

The forums went down due to the incredible number of posts right as events were transpiring. Lowtax left them down, because he couldn't understand why people would even care during a time like that. I could understand both sides in that some people rely on the forums to share their emotions and it was a very emotional day, but then again the "comedians" already had photoshop fired up.


When Lowtax decided to reopen the forums we had a mini-admin conference to decide how we were going to handle things. It was decided that we'd take a hard line approach and explicitly let people know we weren't going to tolerate stupid jokes while the fires were still going. There were a few people who were "OMG WHY ARE YOU DRAWING THE LINE?? YOU HYPOCRITES!!! IT'S FUNNY PEOPLE DIED! LOL!" but I think more people appreciated than resented it.


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Does anyone know of a site that shows the current progress of the cleanup ? Im kind of curious as to what the area looks like 6 months later.


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quote:
Hiruko came out of the closet to say:
STUFF


agree 100% with your thoughts on the lame posed pics on the cam portals that day and the abundance of flags that sprouted up, 99% of which have dissapeared today. the posts in the original thread about "not fucking with america" were pretty lame too. like we're some sort of shining beacon of light above all other countries. like we havent partaken in many many times the amount of death that occured at the wtc through deals with other countries. propping up repugnant dictators(eg. joseph mobutu) while conspiring to have their freedom loving rivals assassinated(eg. lumumba) or backing terror regimes in central and south america to further agendas that the civilians there want or have nothing to do with. i would appreciate the posts better if they had read "you do not fuck with innocent civilians" they are the real victims, regardless of nationality.

disagree with your thoughts on how 2000 people is insignificant. obviously many times that number die every year due to disease or car accidents and people arent expected to get worked up and cry everyday about it. what i don't understand is how someone could be watching this on tv, seeing the actual death and destruction and not feel anything. i mean fuck, when you saw the second plane hit LIVE, or saw people jumping out of windows, or saw the towers collapse LIVE, how could you not feel anything? it wasnt movie effects, it was fucking real life people dying THAT VERY MOMENT WHILE YOU WATCHED. youve gotta be one cold person to not feel anything while watching that. i suppose there are people who the russian soldier video doesnt phase, but thats just beyond my understanding and life experiences to not feel empathy.

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9/11 Houston: Where was I on that one September day?

I had an MIS class at 10AM Houston time, so I woke up at 7:30 to account for the hour-long drive out from the suburbs and to have breakfast and such. My radio was set to 7:15, just before the first plane hit the tower. They were talking about some accountants believing Enron had a little explaining to do with their finances. I dismissed that as bullshit - it was Enron, the asskickers of the energy market and single-handedly keeping Houston out of recession. That all is another thread.

I turned on the TV a couple minutes after the first plane hit 1 WTC. Katie Couric was saying something to the effect of "Well, this is bad, but it looks like the tower will make it. It sucks, but..."
"Yea," I thought, "it sucks, but I gotta keep moving."
I turned off the TV and I took a quick shower to keep up on what was happening; after all, it was the World Trade Center.

I looked at the clock turning the TV back on: 8:02AM. Great, thirty minutes to make sure I was gonna make it to school.

As soon as I got a picture and turned the cable box back to NBC, I saw a single airplane in the center of the TV screen. It looked out of place, it was flying about a thousand feet off the New York skyline. I knew right then what was happening. "Oh...SHIT!"
Three seconds, two, one, I watch a Boeing 767 full of people crash into 2 WTC in a huge ball of flame. People were jumping out of the towers. NBC, in all their search for ratings on that morning, panned the camera following a man and a woman jump to their death, holding hands right to the end.
I was stunned, I couldn't move, I felt like Mark McGwire took a baseball bat to my stomach and this was his Home Run Derby. I sat there for a few minutes while the whole world went apeshit. Cars were screeching to a stop. My phone was ringing. My parents were at work in a school and inside Houston. My sisters were in school. The Civil Service siren went off. It had sat unused since 1971 and today it went off. It was thundering. If the world was truly to end, it would be in a hail of noise much like 8:02AM.

The phone was m grandmother. She's sort of paranoid of the world in her age, and she said she was filling up bottles of water for war. I calmed her down and told her Houston was not under attack and to keep watching TV until someone or something in Houston did something. I made sure the school district wasn't letting my sisters go this morning, and the PR person on the phone said the schools were under control and in lockdown until the National Guard moved in. Good.
After sorting everything out and somehow staying sane through the next thirty minutes, I headed out to school. The last thing I heard on TV was that an explosion was heard at the Pentagon. Again, the Civil Service siren went off. School was UH, and it required a trip through Downtown and into the south side of town where numerous oil refineries operate. The actual trip was alright, and during that time, both towers fell, a "car bomb" went off at the State Department, flames were seen at the White House, a plane was not accounted for off Portugal, out of range for the RAF and the Air Force.
I climed out of my car at school, and a squadron of F-18s screamed out from the southeast, persumable Ellington AFB north of Clear Lake. A plane flew low overhead heading north. Two of the fighters escorted the jet as it made a 180 just before downtown and proceeded to Hobby Airport to the south. People ran for their lives. Girls screamed and jumped back in their cars. A few in ther cars turned around and left. I forgot my backpack at home. I coudn't stay here because I had no means of note-taking, so I headed back home. It was a perfect day to skip classes.

Meanwhile, at UH, I had two friends there. They had an English class at 9AM, and they had heard the entire tragedy on the same radio station I woke up to. When the first plane hit 1 WTC, they called a former pilot and asked him his assessment of the situation. "Accident, " he said. When the second plane hit 2 WTC, the normal rationality of news radio collapsed into people saying, "Oh shit!" and the ever popular "Get off the damn radio!" They had their class fine. When they left, they had had enough of being near downtown and headed to another friend's apartment near the Texas Medical Center. Driving down Old Spanish Trail (well, Houston Goons may know), they were stopped by a National Guard roadblock and diverted to side streets. They said FBI agents were stationed with MP5 machine guns. National Guard in combat gear walked in columns, and two M1A1 tanks guarded the roadblock. Stil more men and tanks were rolling down the street to get to Texas Southern University. Being so close to downtown, the school was evacuated and I later learned it was used as a forward base to intercept a land attack on Houston. They must have had no communication with Washington or the chain of command. They made the apartment at 1PM and spent the rest of the day playing Counter-Strike. That day, everyone played cs_747 and everyone was a CT.

I floored my poor, aging Oldsmobile driving home at 105mph. A fourth plane crashed in Pennsylvania. Jets screamed overhead. A supposed cyberattack shut down gas stations across southeast Texas (later, it was just a crush of people fueling up in anticipation of further chaos). That was the scariest ride home. I turned on the TV to see the smoking ruin that was lower Manhattan. I called my grandmother to tell her I was back and to reassure her again that Houston was safe and everything was on the east coast. Then, I sat down and I cried. I didn't cry during the end of Seinfeld, or during Grave of Fireflies, or when my great grandmother died earlier that year. This was too much. I felt how my friend who used to live in Sarajevo during their war felt. Is this the day I die? I eventually gained composure back and returned to school at 1PM after the Mayor of Houston spoke and then I spent the rest of the day reassuring fellow classmates we'd survuive to see 9/12. I saw 9/12, but I didn't sleep that night.

A lot of the same fears arose when Flight 597 crashed in the Bronx a month later. They lost a lot of people in that neighborhood on the 11th. I'd like to visit there one day. If I ever have money I'd build a statue to firefighters there.

Thanks for posting that archive. It brought back memories and I SA was down when I got a chance to read it.


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spinning lollipop head!

It was after reading that thread that I started actively posting here.

I lost all the screenshots I had documenting it, so thanks for mirroring it.

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How's your pluck?

quote:
HatfulOfHollow came out of the closet to say:
I was surfing when it happened.


It's weird, after the WTC thing, I went down to San Onofre Beach (not to surf, just to watch the longboarders), and of course everything was still in high alert then (even now), and I thought, man...this beach is right next to a nuclear plant AND Camp Pendleton. Why are people in the water? It still freaks me out. Well, hopefully the water on your coast is much cleaner than the West Coast. I want to surf better but hate the state of the water. Okay, enough of the hijack... But this past weekend, I went with a "friend" on a long drive up to Long Beach, where we drove next to the Naval Weapons base, and these weird ships were like on guard (maybe freighters? I don't know my ships). There's still a lot of eerie stuff here, and it gives me the creeps to live right on the ocean, practically. I love it, but it's weird nonetheless to imagine our shores being attacked or something. /paranoia


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I see invisible dumptrucks...!

Thanks. Now I've saved a copy too.

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quote:
Laopooh came out of the closet to say:

stuff that I totally agree with



I too have believed this for quite some time now, but I never had the right way of saying it. You nailed my thoughts right on the head in your 1st paragraph.

I may be more of a humanitarian than a patriot, because I find the abundance of "burn towelheads burn!" posts to be just as disgusting as those which mock the situation. What distinguishes American extremists from other extremists? Extremism caused this mess in the first place, and it has no business in the solution. I realize that in the heat of the moment anger is rampant, but it is still disturbing in my eyes


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..I think in that moment I could have done almost anything, seeing men, women and children fired upon, people who were not armed fired upon by policemen. August Theodore Vincent Spies

A note I would like to add, something I wrote while the other 9/11 thread was gassed, its something to keep you all aware and on top of what is documented. Apologies to anyone I offend:

quote:
xanthien came out of the closet to say:
Another thread to run with: there are thousands of Al Qu'eda fighters. In fact they seem to be breeding faster than a pair of randy rabbits - popping up everywhere. It has also been 6 months since 9/11. Why has there not been another attack in that time, whilst we have been having an all out war against the perpetrators who were already prepared to attack BIG in 'peace-time'?
I don't believe for one minute that the US attack on Afghanistan has been successful - I don't underestimate Bin Laden's intelligence and I am sure he hasn't set foot in Afghanistan since the attacks. I would probably even put a wager on that he is now living in a New York flat, wanking over WTC footage every night.

If you were planning his next terrist attack, and had to contend with 'The Big WTC One' - what would be the best attack strategy to match the scale of that terror and fear?



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Carpet-bombing cluster bombs
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There was an estimate on the TOTAL number of al-queda + taliban "rebels" in the caves, I believe it was significantly less than a thousand. Their leaders told them to go into the caves and hide, while the leaders and Osama fled to Pakistan days before the bombing, in a hilarious military error. We simply dropped bombs on/around the caves and slaughtered (with a few thou troops) what was left. Ironically, the people left in charge now are the Britts. When they were conquering india they saw afghanistan as a potential tennis court and attacked it twice, losing badly. Afghans dont like britts. Many of the "terrible terrists" are children with no knowledge of history other than the way the US used them or their relatives to fight the soviets, who had also ravaged their lands. Other countries have used them as a punching bag, and that is the MOST OBVIOUS REASON WHY THEY GET CRANKY. To note, THE PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED THE WTC WERE NOT TALIBAN OR AL-QUEDA, most were from Saudi Arabia. READ THE FACTS PEOPLE, THEYRE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. The CIA/FBI/Army's prime motive a while ago was to assimilate all and capture bin laden. Now its simply to take away civil rights, how did that evolve? First they wiped out what they could with cluster bombs, winner of many "terrible human rights abuse" trophies, colored and similarly shaped to the "food relief" packets they dropped. They then dropped, in english, pamphlets showing how to turn in osama bin laden. Osama and top leaders ditched afghanistan for pakistan. India, having its elitest caste top layer loving the US, hates pakistan for that even more than ever, and is rallying its nuclear missile production cries. I suggest seeing a movie called "Jang Aur Aman" aka "War and Peace" by Anand Patwardhan, indie film. The US, seeing as they lost all available scapegoats, then went after 2000 people in america, people "linked to sept 11th" via the PATRIOT act, which means if you breath they'll rip your ass apart legally. They're detained for an unknown period, weeks, and still are. We round up the poor saps left in afghanistan, send them to guantanamo bay, where apparently bush gets to decide if theyre POWs or not. Our #1 target is the american (DO WE SEE A TREND HERE?)taliban dude. Now, riddle me this, what has the taliban done TO US, besides refuse to give him up when we asked for him a while back (we did not have, nor present the lackthereof, the evidence of osama's past crimes against humanity). Our only grounds is women's education and subjugation. A while back right before the militant taliban wing swooped in, they were peachy keen with women and had been for a while. Taliban are religious extremists. So are a lot of americans. This all makes no sense to me, because if you look at afghanistan now, as we have supposedly fixed it, there is now a drug problem we BACKED AND FUNDED, still the same public stonings and hangings, everything, just women are now allowed at some schools. Fixed? Please.

As for the illegal "War", its an excuse, wake up.

As for THE UNKNOWN ORGANIZATION THAT ATTACKED THE WTC, HEREBY KNOWN AS YOUREDUMB, they obviously chose the symbols of US hegemony. Our "Free Trade of the Americas" pact is a shitty one, fucking everyone out of money and resources but us, establishing a secret offshore legal system to let corporations sue the pants off any country whose citizens try to boycott or refuse said company from their country, as well as if for any reason their trade is impeded (say.. HEALTH REGULATIONS). The "World TRADE Center" obviously best represents our trade. Simple. Now, the pentagon, why would ANYONE want to attack them GEE I WOULDNT KNOW, but you can read into the CIA's involvement in just about every coup known to man. People, like me, want them to release public records of what they do. If, I say if because its not true, our government it trying to make our world peaceful, they'd have nothing to hide, just like Cheney's oil-in-iraq sales and enron ties, or bush's prompting to evade any ground zero probes. Are you aware all the evidence moved tothe island is rapidly being DESTROYED? I think theres something odd about that.


Note, I am going to be investigated for saying this. I do not wish any terrorist acts, nor condone them. I am currently struggling with comprehending a change via subscribing to Ahimsa..

edit, I beg of you, please ask any dark-skinned person of what their account was. Everyone from Indian to Sikh was discriminated against, few were killed, MANY beaten. Mosques and temples were firebombed (a relic from the KKK days, ring a bell?), people were refused service. Especially people who are Muslim, they had it the worst. Arab support groups and cultural centers were under attack the whole time, when finally reporters got to them they were shocked. The first time anyone ever cares about muslim/arab/etc racism is WHEN THEIR PLACE OF WORSHIP GOT FIREBOMBED, and they were KILLED. Their account wont be like yours.


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What raises more suspicion, a passport declaring you are from a friendly nation, or a passport that says you are from a country where we abondoned our embassy 10 years ago? Take that however you wish.

I mod (loosly) at an NHL board and days after the attacks I thought it best to take out the sudden influx of "OMG ARABS SUX" posts. I felt for what they were going through. The folks who attacked them because of their supposed religion should have been beat down themselves. The guy who killed the Indian national in Arizona should get the death penalty.

A question for you LD, do you believe that "an unknown" entity was the force behind the initial attacks? That is something that I gleened from your post.

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..I think in that moment I could have done almost anything, seeing men, women and children fired upon, people who were not armed fired upon by policemen. August Theodore Vincent Spies

Yes, I stated unknown because it was a cell that is unknown, all of them are dead. Call me a conspiracist, but why the fuck do you carry personal tributes in a jihad to your family with you where you are committing the jihad, if it is a jihad. The flight manuals also are stupid, they have been training for a long time and have had their training locations tracked to all over the world, why do you carry flight manuals TO the airport you are attacking, last minute glances? They were experienced. Just strange to me.

The folks who beat the indian and the other muslims, etc, should not die. I don't believe in the death penalty nor murder in any form. Instead of "making examples" of them. The death penalty has not prevented anyone from a murder. Why not look at the socioeconomic situation, as well as historical racism present from all the slandering of religions other that the US, as well as a global perspective. Apparently, you're some wacko who thinks its ok that people feel hate. I don't understand why, but can you fathom the indian relatives in india thinking "fuck, why did our son die, what did he do? he was as loyal and patriotic as the rest."

ps, sarcastro, thanks for the witty.
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
(interesting.. no?)
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep2001/010914-F-8006R-002.jpg
plane..? Why would the roof stay intact and simply sag on the left? Apparently it took out "1/6 of the pentagon".. bah.
as for the evidence destruction, gimme a min..


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Battler Bunn: He Robs the Hun

quote:
Lobster Donk came out of the closet to say:
Are you aware all the evidence moved tothe island is rapidly being DESTROYED? I think theres something odd about that.


SOURCES, MR. CONSPIRACY MAN. Back up your ravings with something concrete and they might be treated as something other than snot.

quote:
Note, I am going to be investigated for saying this.


Uh-huh. But luckily, the investigator will be a "grey" dressed as a human, so you should be able to use your tinfoil hat to keep his mindprobes at bay.

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Please don't use sarcasm, it hurts.

Hydra posted this... quite apt, I think, even moreso now than then. Sorry if this has been commented on before; I kinda skimmed a few pages

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"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, from the Gulag Archipelago

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Battler Bunn: He Robs the Hun

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Lobster Donk came out of the closet to say:
Yes, I stated unknown because it was a cell that is unknown, all of them are dead. Call me a conspiracist, but why the fuck do you carry personal tributes in a jihad to your family with you where you are committing the jihad, if it is a jihad.


Because according to the types of Muslims who would do this kind of thing (a vast minority of Muslims), dying in this manner is a tremendous good, that brings great honor to the family.

quote:
The flight manuals also are stupid, they have been training for a long time and have had their training locations tracked to all over the world, why do you carry flight manuals TO the airport you are attacking, last minute glances? They were experienced. Just strange to me.


My guess is that they brought them to leave a message to us. Also for last-minute studying. I'd say the real mystery is why they didn't bring them on the planes (so see "my guess"), where they might have needed them.

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PLEASE don't fuck with the jackass from now on!

quote:
Lobster Donk came out of the closet to say:
...Call me a conspiracist...


Done.

Don't get me wrong, its good to question what you see and hear but not to the extent that the conclusions you come up with are even more loosely held together by fact than what you questioned in the first place. In the end, what have you gained?

I can go on and on about your rants in this thread against the evils of government and how the American people are brainwashed during events such as these. However, I respect your ability to have an opinion much more than I do the opinion itself. Thats kind of how it works here in the states. I don't think anything I can tell you will change your mind, if I did I would gladly post it.

I would be interested to know if you did read the "complaint" America sent to the Taliban about Bin Laden and the Al Quaida (sp?) terrorist network? I, personally, had no problems with it and though the demands were harsh you have to take into account that our President, Government and the vast majority of Americans (And by vast I mean 99.99999 percent) were fully behind the steps we were taking at the time. As a matter of fact, the biggest complaints I heard from the populace was: Why isn't that desert a parking lot yet?! (An opinion I did not share... nor do I share now) It sounds to me like the Democracy was served in dealing with the Taliban. No?


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I'd like to beg and plead that people with archived threads such as these submit them to my public SA archive - it doesn't take much time and opens threads up to the Whole Wide World (tm).

UPLOAD HERE

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Get off my lawn!

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Fistgirrl said:I think more people appreciated than resented it.
You better believe it.

Why the fuck is anyone arguing with Lobsterdork? Pity him, he obviously can't afford his lithium.

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That afternoon my Art teacher asked all of her classes to drop every other project they were doing and do a piece, in any media they wanted, portraying some aspect of how they felt.

Here is my three part composition.

http://mindbin.net/wtc1.jpg [380K]
http://mindbin.net/wtc2.jpg [540K]
http://mindbin.net/wtc3.jpg [374K]

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Battler Bunn: He Robs the Hun

Those are good, especially part 3. Nice work.

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Phubuh came out of the closet to say:

Do you have it somewhere? I'd really love to read it.



sa.snappyanswers.com has from 17:04 (central time) onwards - http://sa.snappyanswers.com/irclogs/#somethingawful.ZiRC.20010911.log

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You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on.

Just reading that again gives me chills. Wow, I need a drink.


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Get in the jail.

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I made a thread the next day asking if OnOg was ok. I guess he was because he was quite a distance from the wtc.

If you are reading this OnOg could you tell us what happened after? did you go and get involved trying to help?


I'm a bit away from the WTC. Ten or twenty blocks or whatever. I spent a couple nights at my school's fitness center, since my residence hall was part of the evacuated area. When we could come back, my suitemate and I gave sandwiches to relief workers, and we volunteered a bit at a gas station/makeshift supply place on the West Highway, since we had no needed skills. Our Ethernet was down for a few months, too, since the switch box thing was in a flooded WTC building, which also sucked.

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Man, I've got a stress headache from reading all that and remembering eveything form that day and the days following.

I woke up to come in and open my espresso shop, hopped in the car and turned on the radio. The first thing I heard was "Again, US airspce HAS been closed and all planes have been ordered to the ground immediately." At first I thought it was a stupid radio jock bit but then as they kept repeating it I knew immediately that the Us had been attacked but I had no idea how.

I sped off to work which is only 5 minutes away and turned on CNN as soon as I stepped in the door. I saw the towers on fire and then saw the second plane hit. I almost fell down. The rest of day my espresso shop became information central for a good portion of Anchorage.

We had CNN on, I was getting news from Montreal, the UK, and an Israeli radio station (which funny enough NEVER mentioned the towers attacK) on my computer, and we had a radio station tuned in in the back.

Then things got worse for Anchorage. A Korean airliner was headed for Anchorage and it was assumed that it was another hijacked airliner. Downtown Anchorage was evacuated and the military was on an unprecednted alert. Later, one of my customers who was the FAA controller that landed that plane, said that the pilot accidentally hit a button associated with a fuel switch or some shit that is a signal for hijacking. When the air tower controller asked the proper questions the Korean pilot did not answer correctly and they assumed it had been commandeered.

Also, Alaska is a huge strategic point in many terms, namely, we have incredible military power up here and we have the oil pipeline. F-16s were patrolling the pipeline and there were a shitload of F-15s and F-16s patrolling the airspace above Anchorage, Cook Inlet, and other areas over the seas. When you walked outside everything was eerily quiet as eveyone had gone indoors to find the nearest news source. The only thing you could hear were the murderjets in the skies above.

I never went home that night. I stayed up until about three hours until opening of the next day then caught a cat nap and did it all over again. I just COULDN'T go home that night. It was like I was scared to. I was scared that I might miss something, yet I had all the same newssources at my home. I guess I was just still in shock. Damn, remembering everythign from that day made me sick to my stomach all over again.

Dum2007 - Those were awesome pieces


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stuff


I know what you mean. As soon as I got home from class (it was canceled at noon and I spent 15-20 minutes wandering around trying to find my ride to get home), I knew the moronic assclowns who play Infantry would be making jokes and osama bin laden alias/gimmick accounts, so I logged in to moderate. The rest of the mods and I were told to ban anyone making jokes about the attacks for a day without having to warn them.

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You Am I
Registered: 05-01

It's the moments of insanity which keeps me sane

I remember this day well. It was 10:30pm in Australia on the 11th, just before the first plane hit the WTC towers. I was feeling unwell and I remember my last line to my mother before I went to bed, when she asked whether I wanted the TV left on:

"Might as well turn it off, nothing's going to happen"

The next morning I was awoken to my alarm clock, and the radio announcer mentioning something about towers collasping in New York. Of course I've missed the first bit of the news and wondered what the fuck he was on about. In ten minutes time I found out.

Damn me having a cold.

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Thanks to everyone who archived that, it felt odd to revisit the time before this patriotism turned to nationalism, and "God Bless America" became a clich. Back when the feelings were honest and heartfelt, not the products of a mindless obscene hatred for every/any middle eastern country.

Needless to say, I now have my own copy of everything.

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I can't believe I just laughed at the word nigger!

I was actually sleeping in Maui and was awoken by my cell phone when the first plane hit. A buddy in NY called and told me to turn on the TV, I did just in time to see the second plane slam into the WTC. I hope I never get the feeling of utter dread and despaire that I felt as I watched that happen again for as long as I live. I don't think I will ever forget the feeling, it was like being in the fucking twilight zone or something. I mean it was just so unbelivable yet it was taking place right in front of my eyes.

Sadder still was finding out that my mother-in laws next door neighbor was killed at the Pentagon. He was a 3 star General (his wife did an interview on Larry King and a few other news shows) and I had been to BBQ's with him a couple of times. It really puts it into perspective when you actually know someone who was killed.


LD: dude, you really need to quit reading all those conspiracy sites its warped your perception.


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Wanna dress you up in my love

Thanks for archiving this thread. I never saw it, as I was too busy freaking the fuck out while this was happening. I was at work when the first plane hit. Tears welled up in my eyes when I heard the news. I just couldn't stop thinking about all those people who died in the crash. Then I remembered that two of my aunts worked in the Trade Center. One in Tower 1, the other in Tower 2. I work for a media company and there are lots of TV's around so we were all glued to the televisions. I tried, but did not succeed in keeping my emotions in check and broke down crying in front of everyone. I just knew my aunts were dead. We hadn't heard from either of them and we couldn't get through on cell phones. Between calls to my grandmother, my mother, and calls from concerned friends who were equally freaked out, the last thing I thought about was the forums. As it turns out, one aunt was late for work and arrived right after the second plane hit and my other aunt stayed home from work that day. Lucky for them. I remember being afraid to leave the office that day. Everyone was leaving early and I was scared to go outside because I didn't know what was going to happen.

This was a interesting read. We shouldn't forget.


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HERE COMES THE CYCLOPS!

9/11 in England..
I got a call from someone who saw it live on the news where she lives in Illinois, I'd literally been in bed about 2 hours, (it was around 1 or 2 pm in England at the time and I have a fucked up sleeping pattern) and she told me what had happened, I bolted downstairs wearing nothing but a pair of boxer shorts and grabbed the remote, switched it onto BBC news and it was showing it live, I just missed the first plane hitting the tower, but I was watching, live, as the second plane hit...I felt sick to My stomach, I honestly couldn't believe it was happening..I went back online and My icq list was filled with mass messages of every american I know either posting their own "oh my god, we're under attack, i'm so scared", or forwarding the same kind of thing and adding to it...I nearly bust My monitor by spilling coffee down the front of it, (the coffee was on the mousemat, which was in front of the monitor, at the time My comp was bunched up in a corner in the dining room) as I was gawking at the TV, listening to the reports and watching the footage.
That day was draining, very much so, My friend called from Illinois and we were talking, My mom got on this sympathy kick and asked for the phone and started telling My friend how sorry she was over it. My friend was all choked up, her cousin was working crowd control at the Pentagon (she's in the police), and apparently they had arabs or muslims or something all stood watching and making shitty comments about it, at least as far as I recall, but the police were told they weren't allowed to retaliate or even push them back.
She said her cousin and the guys she was working with all seriously wanted to just stomp the fuck out of them.


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PLEASE don't fuck with the jackass from now on!

I ended up at work that day too... It's not like I was getting anything done though, just trying to get what I could from the internet news and the TV someone had set up in the conference room. I told my boss I didn't feel like sticking around if nothing was getting done, half the department hadn't even shown up. She said it was ok...

Best described, I felt hollow that whole day, brief emotions boiling to the surface; predominantly a feeling of rage as well as sorrow for the innocent lives taken, awe at the damage that had been done, and patriotism and comradery for my countrymen/women that felt the way I did that day.

By the end of the day I had decided on being resolute to see the perpetrators of the crimes brought to justice and to see an end to terrorism. I hope that I will see both these things someday before I die.

I have a folder with a couple hundred pictures and videos of the whole tragic event... I go back and look through them in order to feel all those emotions again and, basically, to never forget. Because I promised myself that day that I wouldn't.

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quote:
yarbles came out of the closet to say:

In between two stations, this guy is still talking about how missile defense is a waste of money and HE tried to tell everyone. "It wouldn't have stopped the plane from crashing into the pentagon now would it? This is what I've been saying the whole time"




Fucking morons like that don't realize NO defensive measure would have prevented that for SO MANY REASONS:

*Plane hurtling toward pentagon is hard to hit
*No authorization to fire on CIVILIAN AIRLINERS FULL OF PEOPLE
*Length of time to acquire authorization longer than length of time between plane becoming suspicious and impact.
*No warning of impending attack to these mythical anti-airliner batteries that would be lining the Potomac and Staten Island.
*The missile defense system is primarily about nuclear ICBM defense, not shooting down airliners. A fucking Patriot missile can take out an aircraft.

Damn I hate stupid people that try to justify stopping work on a nuclear missile defense system because of hi-jacked airliners crashing into buildings. It's so dumb it's almost indescribable.

JRock fucked around with this message at 03-05 around 21:24

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SplitSoul
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Hello.

quote:
Kramer came out of the WTC thread to say:
Not to belittle the signifigance of these events, but you do realize that this means a whole slew of "anti terrorist" and probably "anti violence" laws will be passed through congress.

Any "anti terrorist" laws will be given almost a blank check to do what is necessary. I'd be surprised if in 6 months you'll be able to make a domestic call without it being monitored.

That's the way terrorism works. It's not the attack that hurts most people. A couple of hundred people die -- every death is tragic, but the truth is the real tragedy will be the loss of freedoms for the survivors.




And it seems he was right on the money.


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quote:
SplitSoul came out of the closet to say:


And it seems he was right on the money.


Yeah and it's a fucking shame he was right.

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Will choke to death for food.

quote:
Dr. Gordon Freeman came out of the closet to say:
Holy crap, DarthVersace is a psychic. Check out page two.


"Damn. That is just horrible. I hope the building does not collapse. I assume they have evacuated the surround area by now..."


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Why don't I have a custom title by now?!?

quote:
JRock came out of the closet to say:
Damn I hate stupid people that try to justify stopping work on a nuclear missile defense system because of hi-jacked airliners crashing into buildings. It's so dumb it's almost indescribable.


The point is that modern warfare is unlikely to be fought with ICBMs and is more likely to be fought with non-traditional weaponry. The point is that wasting billions of dollars on things that can't shoot straight while we embroil our public relations with the only nation that have ICBMs is a bad idea. You obviously missed his point.

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Look mah! I'm using the INTER-NET!

At the time I was in school, I was in my Western Civ. class. Perfect timing. The principle came over the announcements to say that one of the Twin Towers had just been attacked. My teacher was a sweet 60 year old man, who had a friend in one of the towers. He turned on the TV and we stopped class for the day. That was the first time I have ever seen a man that old cry.
Coming into that class, he was the only person who knew what freedom meant. And because of WTC, we listened... and now the majority of us know also.


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03-05 22:05
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Geiiga
Registered: 09-01


Don't FUCK with the Amish.

Well, since everyone else seems to have shared their 9/11 story, I guess I'll go with mine. The whole thing happened five days after I registered my account here, and I was trying to avoid the banhammer.

Anyway, that morning, I was scheduled to have an MRI done on my left knee. I was at college at the time, and usually I left my TV on to FoxNews. However, my mom only got eight channels at the time, none of which are news channels, and I was at her house because I didn't want to drive the hour back for the MRI in the morning.

Anyway, the radio in the car I had then didn't work, so I was listening to Dark Side of the Moon on the way to get my MRI. I walked into the office, and I heard a television in the background. I'm used to tuning those out, so I did, until I got to the front desk and heard the receptionist on what sounded like a personal call. My brain doesn't work real well before noon, so it took a few moments for me to recognize the note of panic in her voice.

I turned around, and my eyes focused on the TV just in time to see the second plane hit. For someone who's always informed of what's going on, something of this magnitude just took me by shock. My first reaction was to wonder how long we'd been at war, and how I'd missed it.

I listened to the radio while the MRI thingie was taking pictures of my knees. Heard both the towers collapse, then drove back to my mother's house and talked to Graedus from there. At that point, we'd just done something huge to piss off the Palestinians, and that was my immediate guess, but he assured me that they couldn't have done this, and that it was an OBL plot. I drove back to the dorm, muttering 'holy shit,' with no other noise apart from the engine and the road.

Fort Riley, home of some big giant army base, is just a few miles away from Kansas State University, and military vehicles kept passing me the entire way to school. I was just in shock, until about eight that night, when I broke down and wept.

I wept again reading the original thread...and I think I'm just going to drink myself into oblivion now.

03-05 22:06
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i_am_the_hydra
Registered: 02-01

Why don't I have a custom title by now?!?

I live alone without a TV or radio or even newspapers. The only news I get is on the computer. By the time I found out about it, everything had already happened. I just braced myself for more. Fortunately nothing else really came about. That's my story.

03-05 22:16
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When I got into work that morning, the news had just come out that "a plane crashed into one of the WTC towers". I can't get any TV or radio reception where my desk is, and this thread was the main source of information that I had as to what was happening at that time. God, rereading this makes me sick again.

03-05 22:31
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LoonyLeif
Registered: 07-01

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Ok, so here's my story.

9/11 was a beautiful day in Kansas, and not one of those Pearl Harbor sappy fucking sunny Sunday days. The skies were very much clearer than usual in the fifth most polluted city in the US (Wichita).

It seems no one wanted to talk about it at my Christian university. The first I heard of it was when two girls whispered something about terrorists hijacking a plane and crashing it somewhere. "Wow, that's scary!" the other one smiled.

It was by the next class that all those little hints became reality. The teacher was beginning his class, whispered something to the dean about how "the second tower collapsed too." What the shit?

He began. "If you haven't heard the news, it seems that several commercial jetliners had been hijacked, and two of them crashed into the World Trade Center. Apparently, terrorists have delcared war on America."

I couldn't speak. All this fear and anger at once. My first words, like many people, were "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST" and I had to worry about going to war myself.

The teacher went on with the class, but no one listened. Twenty minutes of mixed thoughts later, a group of students finally asked "so, are we going to war?"

I couldn't even get to a TV. I had class after class that day, until finally lunch, where I saw the first pictures on a TV. FUCK. What the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK?

I found it discomforting that a good 90% of the students in the lunch room continued their day laughing and playfully conversing, while a small group of ten or so gathered around the TV.

I spent the rest of the time in my car, listening to the radio, before going to my psych class. We actually had a sympathetic professor who gave us the option to watch the news or leave class.

Later on that day, I was ordered to get some fast food for dinner. No planes, very few cars. GOD DAMN. I was scared to go outside, but I made it. I had math homework, which I put off till late that night since I was glued to the TV. I finished about the time the third WTC building collapsed.

I stayed up until 1am, wanting to cry, not knowing how. I needed to open a gate, and sometimes I think I still do. How do I open a gate?

All alone.

FUCK.

LoonyLeif fucked around with this message at 03-05 around 22:50

03-05 22:46
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Salaam
Registered: 05-01


quote:
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DarthVersace had this to say about Robocop:

First a bomb. Now a plane.

That fucking building just can't get a goddamn break.
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This one is the World Trade Center, much different from the one McVeigh blew up. This one is in NYC and not in OKC. Odds are a bunch of pretty important diplomats and international bank folks are now dead because of this, I almost like this one - no dead little kids...bunch of dead politician scum. Not a bad score.






Anyone else notice this gem of a post by EDX200(pg 6 or 7)? I'm surprised I'm the first to quote his post. For one "EDX200", DarthVersace was referring to Bin Laden's first WTC bombing, not the oklahoma thing. So by correcting him, you just exposed your extreme ignorance. Two, I guess you forgot these weren't federal buildings. The WTC buildings were leased by independant finanical firms, with secretaries, mail-guys ect. Not to mention tourists, including families from out of town with their kids. So, yes, it was a bad score. Thousands of innocent people, one pissed off public. And EDX200? Still a moron.

03-05 22:49
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KaosFactor
Registered: 12-00


I was at the dentist when everything was going down. Never hought having my teeth drilled would be the highlight of my day. I got back in my car and turned on he radio just as the second tower collapsed. WTF i thought,then they repeated everything about the planes. Storming into my apartment where all my friends were gatherd I screamed something about "Nuke the fuckers" and then started calling every one i knew in NY. The sanatation department of NY called my friend to tell him his son was dead(2 days later we found out he was alive). I still say kill anyone with a pro-Bin Laden poster or whatever. Also, i have a copy of tyhe Howard Stern Show from 9-11 on mp3. If anyone can host it, I'll post it. Its about 6 hours and 58 megs.

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Registered: 03-02


quote:
KaosFactor came out of the closet to say:
Also, i have a copy of tyhe Howard Stern Show from 9-11 on mp3. If anyone can host it, I'll post it. Its about 6 hours and 58 megs.


I can't host it , but please put it on the DC hub!

My story was that my morning alarm went off (radio) and I layed there in bed while the commercials were on. As soon as it came back, the normal "wacky" DJ's came on and very franticly said "If you just woke up it's been a long morning." Then they continued to tell about everything that had happened (right when the first tower collapsed). I ripped the covers off and ran full blast to turn on the TV right as they were replaying video of the tower collapsing. After a while, I decided to go to my parents house. It was overcast and awful outside, and as I pulled up to the first stoplight, I saw the woman driving the car next to me bawling... Sacto, CA

03-05 23:56
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Astroman
Registered: 04-01

I think half the people on Cliff Yablonski's page are DREAMY.

Thank you for doing this.

It was odd, reliving the moments as they happened. As NotShadowStar said, we tend to lose perspective of what the day and event meant--it becomes another background meme in the pop culture chatter. Or perhaps we remove it to a far away place so as to avoid dealing with the reality of it all. Whatever.

I wasn't a part of the early "live" thread, because I was at work. In fact, I was across the street from the Air Force base where the jet fighters took off to intercept the plane that crashed in PA. I heard them, two of my fellow workers saw them. One of the the first things I thought was "I wonder what's going on at SA now?" No need for a reminiscing thread, as I pretty much posted my day on page 16 or 17. And there it is. Christ, my emotions from 6 months ago, in a moment, gelled there for me to see.

I'm not ashamed to say that reading the real time of that morning...things got blurry...I realized that tears were welling up in my eyes. I agree with what Fistgrrl mentioned, about how Lowtax and the other Admins decided to treat the events. There's a time for funniness and humor to relive sadness, but what we did and how we acted in those days will be a testament to the fact that even horrible monsters who pray for death can cry sometimes, and offer comfort as well.


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Registered: 03-01

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Did anyone save any of the threads from the alternate forums that I think Tom set up?

Reading this thread made me go dig through my directory of images I collected that day. I'm glad that watching the .avi of the second plane hitting still bothers me.

03-06 04:31
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S.Liberace
Registered: 08-01

I dance for the Japanese men.

Jesus, everytime you think you're past it you turn out to be wrong.

As a bit of trivia to non-NYC goons, the N and R trains no longer stop at the cortland street station (Directly under WTC) but they do travel directly through the station. The first few weeks they reopened her, the trains would crawl by and everyone would get quiet. There are big wooden posts reinforcing the ceiling and spray paint saying "DO NOT STOP!!!"

Luckily, I only use that line on weekends. It's fucking scary.

I think my retelling of the day is too long to post:
http://www.anibom.com/blu_girl/sites/lamescrawl/2001_09_09_arc.html

Maybe the outsider can't tell, but that was more or less the coldest, most sterile thing I've ever written.

One of the things I didn't remember to include in this writing was that as I was canceling appointments, I reached the cell phone of a guy who was fleeing north. I told him that his appointment was cancelled and he yelled "NO FUCKING SHIT! I'M COVERED IN ASBESTOS!"

I didn't remember that it even happened until a month back he called me to apologize for yelling at me.

I wasn't able to help as directly as DJ did, but until January I was the organizing force behind a small donation drive for surviving family members of people who were killed in the attack.

We could only do 25 families, but that means that I met about a hundred widows and orphans, talked to them every week, and received about 75 photos of dead people when they were happy and smiling at weddings and graduations hugging the aforementioned widows and orphans and 25 tenderly-written eulogies.

Many of the families kept hoping for a miracle and didn't schedule memorial services until December.

By the time it ended in January, I couldn't feel anything but relief. I really hate my brain for that. But I was just so goddamned tired.


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03-06 05:17
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Raivin
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I didn't post here when this went down. Very chilling stuff.

I was in Manhattan when it all went down. I was on the 7 train coming from Queens just like a typical morning. I was running a few minutes late, I'd get into Times Square a little before 9. I had my discman/radio with me, listening to some CD. Pretty ironic since most times I'll just listen to Stern and drift in and out of sleep until my train hits the last stop. Not having live radio playing, I was surprised to come up from underground to find Times Square at an absolute standstill, all eyes glued to the big television over the Good Morning America building. The headline talked about a plane hitting the WTC. I flipped to Stern and heard them discussing it as well. "What a terrible accident", I thought. No more than a second after that thought formed in my head did plane #2 plow into the opposite tower. Everyone just gasped or cried out. My jaw just dropped. I was in shock. I just turned around and actually went up to my office to let the others know what was going on.

We didn't have TVs in there, so I just sat at my desk with my discman still on, listening to Stern and his crew do their best to convey this real life tragedy as it unfolded. As things progressed, it was almost eerie how random callers would start yelling about killing "all the towelheads" only to have Howard Stern of all people try to calm him down. Everyone in the office had their radios on but were still managing to get their work done. I could barely bring myself to boot up my PC.

As soon as news hit that the Pentagon was attacked, I officially began to panic. I won't lie, I feared for my own safety. Times Square is a tourist madhouse and probably has a nice big bullseye painted on it because of that. Setting off even a conventional bomb outside my building on your average afternoon would easily kill dozens, maybe hundreds. All manner of phone communication was down, I could only speak to friends through AIM and my Everquest message board. I tried to get an out of state friend to call my parents to tell them I was fine. Then I heard of the towers collapsing and actually prayed to whoever was listening (I'm agnostic) that they had evacced as many as they could when this all started. My good friend and co-worker's father is a fireman and was dispatched to the scene about a half hour before the collapse. I had no idea if he was there at the time or even still alive. I wouldn't find out til that afternoon that he was alive, and save a broken tailbone just fine.

At about 10am, as I was wondering how to get out of the city with all mass transit suspended, my friend Cristina came out of fucking nowhere (sorry). She had work on the set of some independent film downtown which was cancelled for obvious reasons. I excused myself from work (my boss had no objections), and together we walked uptown to find her cousin and aunt. That took about 45 minutes as her aunt had to walk with the huge migration of people heading uptown to get to us. At one point a few people a block down from us ran towards and past us, which naturally caused a few more people to run, all for no reason, but it freaked us out momentarily.

We headed to yet another of Cristina's family members, another cousin who worked in a doctor's office. She had us stay there for a short while as she talked to one of the doctors. The doc gave us all two doses of Cipro (this was WAY before all the Anthrax scares), just in case terrorists had laid infected dust at the base of the buildings which would now be dispersed in the air. I don't take antibiotics without proof that I'm sick. I still have my pills on my desk next to me.

Finally we headed to the 59th Street bridge and walked across to Queens, a smoking skyline behind us. It looked like the bridges marathons are run across, there were even restaurant owners at the other side with water and cookies for us. We got into Cristina's cousins car (she drives to the bridge then takes a train the rest of the way) and drove back. I got home at around 7pm. Ironically, the whole ordeal felt like a dream until I saw it on the news at home. That's when it hit. Once the relieved pleasantries between me and my family were done, I went upstairs to shower and change, but not before allowing myself a solid minute or two of crying for all the people lost and for the world that wouldn't ever be the same again.


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CW Melchior
Registered: 06-01


I have probably the dullest story.


I woke up around 2 PM, Eastern.

I stumbled into my living room, where the Tuesday Paper was on the table.

"Hmmm? We never get the paper this early."

I looked at the paper to see the headline: "US ATTACKED" and the WTC exploding.

I dropped the paper on the table and turned on the TV, and sat with my mouth agape in horror and what I saw.

The first thought was naturally "Holy Fucking Shit".

My second thought was "How safe am I?"

I live in Genesee County, Michigan. There's alot of General Motors and Ford plants around here. In wartime, the plants can be quickly converted into weapons and military vehicle factories. The government pays GM and Ford to maintain the dies for all the current equipment, just in case they ever need to be used. I read somewhere that my county was the number 1 county in the nation for wartime production. Maybe it was a bit hasty of me to think so, but I was worried that if someone wanted to hit us worse than they did, they'd attack the plants where we can quickly change from automobiles to military vehicles and weapons.


The gas stations went from charging 1.18 a gallon to 6.75 in 2 hours. I remember being really pissed at the price gouging that was going on.

After I regained what little composure I had, I went outside and raised our American Flag to half-mast.

03-06 06:15
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i_am_the_hydra
Registered: 02-01

Why don't I have a custom title by now?!?

In the month or so after the 9/11 I gave a speech at a "nonreligious memorial" or something like that (it was basically a 9/11 memorial set up by groups that felt excluded by all of the emphasis on prayer in both the public and private sector). I'm not usually a big fan of memorials but they asked me to speak (cause I'm a youngin' compared to all of them) so I did. My speech wasn't too exciting (though I will admit I turned to a priest friend for help in writing it.. I don't do memorial services very often) though the only thing I remember liking about it was that I talked for a little bit about the fact that history will forget that during those hours of morning, across the country, one would look at others walking around, and smile politely. I heard no cars honking. I heard no one yelling obscenities. I saw people more courteous and kind to their fellow people than ever before.

It didn't last, of course. Nothing like that ever does. But it was nice to see it while it lasted. To look at people in the eye as you passed them, I just know that they knew what you knew, but it was going to be okay in the end. History won't remember that, but I will.

03-06 06:32
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Lord BEEF
Registered: 08-00

Half man, half machine, my mom calls me BEEFMOTRON

Two points I'd like to make

First off, on the day itself, especially before afternoon, there were many people who just didn't understand what was going on. Some of this reasonable, as at first they just kept referring to "the buildings" as if they were just that, buildings. Only later on did they remark on how much life was lost. Some of the reactions disgusted me... at college, I get to class finding a sign saying the class was cancelled, and was relieved because I didn't want to talk about math at a time like that. However, I heard someone say "What? We don't have class because of that thing this morning? Cool!"
.. yeah, that thing this morning.

Secondly, I'm frustrated by the lack of information that's out there. I shouldn't have to get my information about the US opposition's viewpoints from only the media, who only go on to say how evil they are. I also shouldn't have to hear it all from anti americans who keep going on about how evil America is. I don't want your spin, I just want the facts.

I'm just as disgusted by hearing "They hate us because of our freedoms, and our way of life" as I am by "It's americas fault, because of our selfish foreign affairs policies."

I don't think I'm a bad person for wanting to know more.

03-06 07:03
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soupb
Registered: 07-01

I am a horrible monster.

were there no survivors after the collapse? it may be morbid, but i think mostly about the people stuck on the floors above the crash, unable to escape, clawing at the walls hysterically and jumping out windows..


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Pledio
Registered: 06-01

I'm going to jail.

quote:
soupb came out of the closet to say:
were there no survivors after the collapse? it may be morbid, but i think mostly about the people stuck on the floors above the crash, unable to escape, clawing at the walls hysterically and jumping out windows..


They recovered someone from the very bottom. A security guard who worked in the basement.

FWIW, I heard stories of firefighters hearing cries of help in the rubble, and panicking, because they couldn't do anything to help them.

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Orb Kaftan
Registered: 09-01


Thank you for archiving that thread. I glanced through it on September 11, but I was in a bit of shock that day so I didn't really read any of the posts. It's strange how I found out about the attacks on this very forum.

Since this has become a "Where were you?" thread, here's the post I made in my journal a few days after the attacks. It basically sums up my reactions to everything after I had calmed down a bit. I'm sorry for the inaccuracies in this, but there were still a lot of unanswered questions at the time. I also apologize for the lack of good paragraphs.

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I'm sure everyone is wondering just why in the hell it has taken me so long to make an entry on these past few days. Well, for the most part, it's because I haven't really figured all this out, but it's also because I like to do my writing in private, and for the past two days I have had no privacy at all. This is really the first chance I've had to actually sit down and really think about all these occurrences.

Two days ago everything was normal. I went to my 8 am class, and since all we had to do was turn in our papers, everyone except for those students whose drafts had not been reviewed got to go back home after about ten minutes. I had an hour to waste before history class (how ironic), so I naturally spent it on the Internet. I recently joined the somethingawful forums, and someone had posted a picture of the smoke coming out of one of the towers. At first I thought, there's no way it's real. He photoshopped that. Then as I read more replies to his post, I felt the need to find out more. So I went to a news website, confirmed that it was in fact true, but at the same time it seemed unreal. Most everyone I've talked to described it as something you'd see in a movie; unbelievable. My roommate and I turned the TV on, and we watched as everything unfolded. As the day wore on, I became more scared. It's hard to have a sense of security when America is sucker punched like this, and by an invisible monster. The strange part is, I've never felt so proud to live in this country. Whoever did this probably expected America to fall to her knees and go into hysterics, but she stands taller now than ever before, and we seem to be more united than we ever have been. People are actually being TURNED AWAY from blood centers because they have too much right now. The firemen and police officers in New York, instead of running away from the collapsing buildings, ran into the mouth of hell, doing everything they could to save as many people as possible. Even though we may never have a way of proving what happened, Tom Burnett and the other two individuals he spoke of on his final phone call to his wife should be considered heroes. They took action when it was needed, and saved the lives of probably thousands of people.

Thousands of people lost their lives on Tuesday. That's the part that's hardest to comprehend. Tuesday. Not over the course of several years, but Tuesday. It took one day to radically alter American life. It took one day for America to learn true fear, but it also took America that same day to show true courage in the face of fear.


One more thing. Does anyone have the front page from September 11? Not the Jeff K update, but the WTC-related one?

03-06 07:46
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Registered: 05-01


I took a bunch of pictures from a bridge in my town. (Which has, as far as I can tell, officially been renamed from Great Neck to Great-Neck-Home-of-Sarah-Hughes) Those pictures are here. The first bunch occur after the towers have fallen. There is a plume of smoke many many miles long. Realize that Manhattan is about 20 miles away or so. (Probably more, I don't have a good conception.) That, my friends, is a big fucking plume of smoke.

The next bunch occured during sunset, since the contrast between smoke and sky was better. The next bunch occur at night, five days later. The bridge was transformed into a makeshift memorial. (I can be seen with horrible red-eye in at least one of the pics, as I recall.) I've posted these numerous times before, but now's as good a time as any.

The news reports, the TV footage, the posts on SA--those were all nice and informative, but I could go outside and drive half a mile to this bridge, look out over western Long Island, and see a giant plume of smoke. It was a curious experience of reality intermingling with surreality.


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Registered: 05-01


quote:
soupb came out of the closet to say:
were there no survivors after the collapse? it may be morbid, but i think mostly about the people stuck on the floors above the crash, unable to escape, clawing at the walls hysterically and jumping out windows..


The people that died on the planes... that was sad. The people that died in the immediate impact... that was sad. The people that were crushed by the concrete falling down above them, and never saw it coming... that was sad.

The poor souls that were trapped above the fires, with no way down and the first to realize the building was falling apart... that is the image that burned a hole in my mind. Seeing people jump... from 80+ stories up... you knew they knew they had no chance of landing safely, but it was either jump, or burn. The pictures of one man climbing down the outside of the building for 2 or 3 stories before losing his grip and falling... the pictures of the man and woman holding hands all the way down... those are what haunted me when I closed my eyes every night after Sept. 11th.

As for what I was doing... I was asleep when most it happened (I live on the West Coast). My roommate ran into my bedroom, told me the WTC had been bombed and the Pentagon was on fire. At first I didn't get it... I was groggy and asleep, so I just lay there in bed. After a few minutes I yelled out "What do you mean its been bombed" and my roommate yelled back "One of the towers is totally gone"... thats when I ran my ass out of my bedroom and planted myself in front of the TV for the next 11 hours or so.


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schnitzelbonk!

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THE PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED THE WTC WERE NOT TALIBAN OR AL-QUEDA, most were from Saudi Arabia. READ THE FACTS PEOPLE, THEYRE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.


Thank you, I already have.

Most of the Al Qaida forces are from Saudi Arabia, as a matter of fact. While it has not been made a matter of conclusive public record that the 9/11 hijackers were Al Qaida, most of the evidence strongly suggests that they were.

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FWIW, I heard stories of firefighters hearing cries of help in the rubble, and panicking, because they couldn't do anything to help them. [/B]


The first day I spent on the pile they made contact with a person by tapping. I'll never forget what it was like hearing the search and resuce guy yell "We've got somebody, somebody's down there!". The whole place gave up the most amazing cheer of joy that I've ever heard. That cheer bounced off the ruined walls and gave me chills. It gave us all hoe and made our search that much more fervent. They tried and tried to get down to the trapped person. They were using all kinds of equipment to try and get down there. Every half hour they would make us all stop working and be silent so they could use the bullhorn to get the person to tap and try to communicate. For a while they would regain contact and a similar cheer would rock the site. Hours passed however and eventually, the person stopped responding. They weren't able to reach him.


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That thread is... difficult. I don't have a photographic memory, but images of everything I did and saw that morning are indelibly etched into my mind. I'm torn between realizing it's important to keep things like this in mind and desiring a return to the innocence of Sept. 10. On the evening of Sept. 10 the most important thing in this nation was some stupid, inconsequential congressman's affair with an even more irrelevant intern. It seems impossible now to look back and understand why we, as a nation, as a world, cared about such stupid shit. I've always been a critic of the national media, but I'll be very happy when they return to obsessing over pointless shit. On that day, maybe, just maybe, all this stuff will be over.

At any rate, I apologize for my first comment in that thread. It seems pragmatism flies out the window when burning rage takes over, but that's no excuse.

03-06 16:00
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britishbornandbread
Registered: 07-00

I FUCK MIDGETS!!!!!!

I remember that day a lot too. I think I was in a German lesson when the planes crashed into the WTC. I got out of school a good 2 or 3 hours after the two towers had collapsed. I met up with my school chums at the gates, one of them was on his mobile telling his mate about what happened. My cousin Wayne told me that some planes had crashed into the World Trade Center and I didn't believe him.

I got home and turned on the TV. Four out of the five domestic channels were showing footage of the two towers collapsing. It was awful. I went out to play football soon afterwards. I don't know why but I didn't think of it as this huge thing it has become. Call me naive, or an asshole. I deserve both.

03-06 16:29
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fuckingtest
Registered: 03-01


Beware the naked astroman!

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TheDingo came out of the closet to say:


I can't host it , but please put it on the DC hub!

My story was that my morning alarm went off (radio) and I layed there in bed while the commercials were on. As soon as it came back, the normal "wacky" DJ's came on and very franticly said "If you just woke up it's been a long morning." Then they continued to tell about everything that had happened (right when the first tower collapsed). I ripped the covers off and ran full blast to turn on the TV right as they were replaying video of the tower collapsing. After a while, I decided to go to my parents house. It was overcast and awful outside, and as I pulled up to the first stoplight, I saw the woman driving the car next to me bawling... Sacto, CA



I was listening to Stern that morning on the way to work when I overheard robin say something about a plane hitting the wtc. I thought to myself "WTF? Like a cessna right?" Then howard stern starts playing the CNN report into the mic and I thought "Oh my God." I stopped by my parents house and ran inside where I watched about 15 minutes of the attack on TV. Just as I was about to leave I see another plane hit the second tower. My mom started to cry. I went back outside and drove to work where everyone was glued to the TV set in the lounge. About 15 minutes after I got there I saw the first tower collapse. The mail guy came in and noticed the TV. He walked over and was stunned when he saw what happened. He ran out of there. I started calling friends in NYC. My buddy from HS was on the roof of his apt. building with the phone cord dragged up the stairs. We both saw the second tower collapse...Between expletives, I heard the whole apt. building scream. Truely, one of the most terrible days Ive had.

03-06 19:01
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