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rope kid
Registered: 02-01

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Norman_Bates had this to say about Robocop:
Awsome Pictures man.

btw, both of those images were used completely without permission. they are from the dc graphic novel/comic series Uncle Sam. alex ross is the artist. if you ever have mixed feelings about what it means to be an american in the modern world, there are worse things to read.
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DarthVersace
Registered: 07-01
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Awsome Pictures man.

They're from the graphic novel Uncle Sam. Illustrated by Alex Ross. Pick it up, if you can. Ross is a genius.

EDIT to say rope kid beat me to it. Damn. Well, lookit the picture anyway.




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09-12 02:25
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Yojimbo
Registered: 07-00

I'd just like to say my heart goes out to people like NickLess and anyone else who knows anyone involved with these attrocities.

Being the lazy ass I am, I slept through most of the actual ordeal and living on the other side of the country kind of left me with a weird "is this real or not" type of feeling.

This thread was very interesting/informative to read from start to finish. People's initial reactions are fascinating, not to mention some of the miss information that began floating around.

My initial thought was punishment and revenge, and while they are still strong in my head, I feel myself start to turn to questions of why, and who.

09-12 02:26
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Jazzimus
Registered: 07-01

Jazzimus checking in.

I wanted to give blood today but was turned away, all blood centers in San Francisco are swamped, which is a good thing.

I will give blood tomorrow or later this week. But I will give blood. Other SA'ers should do the same.
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Doctor Meat
Registered: 08-00
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Ryuukishi had this to say about Robocop:

It is not an issue of Islam being an evil religion. That is a horrible, horrible view of the situation. Do not presume to lose your religious tolerance in light of these events.


I think we are all very tired, but I think if you read my post you will see I didn't imply any such thing. I recognize that most Muslims are peaceful and abhor terrorist actions. You can call what the taliban practices "false Islam" if you wish. My distinction is that taliban truely believes in it. You can't control the taliban by taking control of their government or having their leaders call off the attacks. They've killed both their leaders and the former government for "straying from the path". To them it is not just a political matter, it is a matter of how they will spend eternity. Again, I apply this only to radical groups, not Islam as a whole.
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Ryuukishi
Registered: 04-01
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Ryuukishi had this to say about Robocop:

It is not an issue of Islam being an evil religion. That is a horrible, horrible view of the situation. Do not presume to lose your religious tolerance in light of these events.


I think we are all very tired, but I think if you read my post you will see I didn't imply any such thing. I recognize that most Muslims are peaceful and abhor terrorist actions. You can call what the taliban practices "false Islam" if you wish. My distinction is that taliban truely believes in it. You can't control the taliban by taking control of their government or having their leaders call off the attacks. They've killed both their leaders and the former government for "straying from the path". To them it is not just a political matter, it is a matter of how they will spend eternity. Again, I apply this only to radical groups, not Islam as a whole.


Right, right, I'm sorry, I'm feeling very tired and highstrung. I had a sob, my first of the day and I feel a little better now.

I am deathly afraid of what America's evil elements are going to do to Arab-Americans. This frightens me as much as anything about what will happen, god willing people will behave much as the people of New York have today.

And while I'm tired, I can't fall asleep. When I was a little kid I used to dream my house would get hit by a falling plane, or a meteor or a comet, and I don't want to have another of those dreams right now.
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Doctor Meat
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I am deathly afraid of what America's evil elements are going to do to Arab-Americans. This frightens me as much as anything about what will happen, god willing people will behave much as the people of New York have today.

I fear greatly for my arabic friends. New Yorkers have responded very rationally. But growing up in NY I met dozens of people from the United Arab Emirates. In other areas of the country most people think of all Muslims and arabs as terrorists. That's a really scary situation where vigilantes are likely to do horrible things to innocent people.

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MistranslatedShipCaptian
Registered: 11-00
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My apologies if this post brings nothing new to the thread, I'm not very good at conveying my ideas and thoughts without confusing my self and others so I'm going to do it as simple as I can.

Until today Iíve never known, really known how evil humans can be. In history they teach us about the atrocities of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and Pol-Pot. Iíve learned the facts, the causes, the statistics but never the emotion of being there, of living with it, of dealing with it. All though my life (all 15 years of it) Iíve never witnessed true evil, only assholes, ignorance and hate. Now I know, or at least know of true evil. The kind of evil that overrides the most basic of human nature, self-preservation. That is so fucked.

09-12 03:08
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ford prefect
Registered: 03-01
I'll give you a box of chocolates if you kill me.

hopefully when the FAA reopens the airlines today we dont see a resurgence in downed aircraft, dont mean to jinx it or anything.
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soupb
Registered: 07-01

there's more shock/fascination than sympathy
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hal9OOO.
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Until today Iíve never known, really known how evil humans can be. In history they teach us about the atrocities of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and Pol-Pot. Iíve learned the facts, the causes, the statistics but never the emotion of being there, of living with it, of dealing with it. All though my life (all 15 years of it) Iíve never witnessed true evil, only assholes, ignorance and hate. Now I know, or at least know of true evil. The kind of evil that overrides the most basic of human nature, self-preservation. That is so fucked.


Only in the situation that is currently happening we can all see evil, ignorance and hate. I just hate not only seeing the horrible footage that is everywhere but especially the naive people in the middle eastand other parts of the world that are fucking celebrating. Reguardless of your beliefs this loss and abuse of human life/rights CANNOT BE IN ANY WAY EVER A GOOD THING.


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TACO TEH WODNER DOUGH
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how do you know its the isrealites? did anyone say it is? maybe its a bunch of dumb americans.


I love jumping to conclusions.

09-12 04:49
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Degauss
Registered: 07-01
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I just looked on CNN.com and they have a video of the first plane, I can't rip this but I am collecting all I can on this and will be burning it to a cd, I want to be able to share the tales of horror and of heroism on this day... can anyone rip this video off of CNN.com?

We witnessed history here, I am not proud of what happened but I am proud to be living durring history.
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09-12 05:07
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Digital Osmosis
Registered: 01-01
I probably talk about role playing games a lot.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/multimedia.html

Go watch the amature video of the Doctor.
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BobbyThompson
Registered: 03-01

I hope we hear of more and more survivors being pulled out of the rubble. Any goons that are directly affected by this tragedy, we are all thinking of you..

The BBC24 channel is staying just 6 confirmed survivors at 14:00 GMT

Strength and hope guys, some of the lower levels must have people waiting to be rescued.

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Lagerlvr
Registered: 09-00

From Toronto, thinking of all of you down in the states...hard to get any work done.

Take care.
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straight edge
Registered: 03-01
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"As some of you may know, [ARAMARK] operated a food court at the top of one of World Trade Center towers in New York City, as well as concessions, retail merchandising and all tours on the observation deck." - Joseph Neubauer, ARAMARK CEO

I worked at the Philly HQ of ARAMARK over the summer, and the people who work at locations at the top of the WTC are minimum wage employees; poor men and women just trying to make a living for their family.

Please pray for the families, especially the ARAMARK employees lost in the cafe at the top of the WTC. Please.

Thank you.

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Tamarik
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anti-orp had this to say about Robocop:
how do you know its the isrealites? did anyone say it is? maybe its a bunch of dumb americans.


I love jumping to conclusions.


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Tartan Target
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This is fucking unbelievable. It's like something out of a fucking movie.

09-12 07:13
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This is fucking unbelievable. It's like something out of a fucking movie.

I think if someone made a movie like this, we'd say, "Bah, too far fetched..."

It's just scary.

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jet sanchEz
Registered: 10-00
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Here in TOronto, we are being asked if we can take in billets from the airport---the people from all the international and domestic flights that were re-directed out of US airspace yesterday. I have an extra room and will be donating it's use after I get home from school...I have been told that blood is needed also. Once I figger out this billeting thing, the Red Cross is my next stop. I cannot explain how deeply this has frightened me and I can only imagine what people in New York and Washington and elsewhere who have been truly touched by this event must be going through. I hope that my small efforts will help someone out. My thoughts are with all the people hurt yesterday and can only hope that we can all strive towards a better tomorrow.
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MaddGoddess
Registered: 02-01
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i can not believe that what happened yesterday was real. i can not imagine the horror the victims/hostages on the airplanes went through as they were told that they were going to die. i can not begin to imagine how terrible of a tragedy this was and how people were preferring to plummet to their death, knowing that one way or another they were going to die, but chose jumping instead of burning. i can not imagine the terror of being one of those people trapped in the topmost sections as they looked down and surely knew that there would be no way down for them....

i just can not imagine.

and each time i see the footage, i can not help but say "holy hell, there goes a plane full of terrified people forced to their deaths as they crash into a building full of unsuspecting people who will also die."

i have never felt so devoid of the capabilites of imagination as i am today and was yesterday. it certainly makes any problem you once thought you had take a back seat burner to the gruesome perspective of this horrible reality.

this can not be undone. it has happened and can not unhappen. ever.

i understand that violence is wrong, that a peaceful way should be found in retaliating against this atrocity BUT a large part of me says fuck no, let the fuckers DIE. a large part of me says that regardless of the nationality of those responsible whether they are from some far off violence ridden nation, or homebred fruitcakes, that blood must be spilt. lives must be avenged. that we have taken terrorism laying down too fucking long and people now think they can just get away with it.

whether this is right or wrong, true or false, this is how i feel. i feel that a public execution is in order.

god damn. may god save us all.

[Edited by MaddGoddess on 09-12 at 08:14]

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Shrieking Ape Blasphemy
Registered: 02-01
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Yeah, but Maddy, Bush is going to start nuking everything in sight now to satisfy those people right now who are feeling an incredible sense of rage (and justly). I'd like to think that America can be the "bigger man" in this case, by systematically and quickly bringing to justice those who perpetrated this crime - or orchestrated it, at least. As horrifying as this is (I can't get the pictures of people FALLING OUT OF THE BUILDINGS out of my mind) we can't let it escalate.

If you ask me, you're feeling what most of us are right now, but this is going to get worse before it gets better.


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Choada Boy
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